Re: Possibly OT, VMWare?

  • From: "Marlon Brandão de Sousa" <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:09:44 -0300

Hello,
My scripts are designed to use the application itself, not the web innterface.
I have not received feedbacks ablout failures in the scripts. Please
send me an e-mail with a description about what isn't working for you
and I'll do what I can to try to help you.
I wrote these scripts to work with the 1.x branch, but as I said I had
no feedbacks saying the scripts aren't working.
Thanks,
Marlon

2008/10/10, InthaneElf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> ah, oops, lol, I'm so behind that I forget everything I've already put up
> there, ahahahahaha, I'm feeling rather homer simpsonish right now, thanks
> for telling me though, I lost all my on comp copies of my sites and have not
> as of yet gone and re-downloaded a copy of what is up there, just made sure
> that my server company had a fresh backup!
>
> take care, and you'll have to plug Mario about the scripts, I have no clue,
> I can't find my back side with both hands, a flashlight and a road map when
> it comes to scripting, I hardly know "which end of the pencil goes up" when
> it comes to application programming in visual basic, and I took courses in
> that, lol!
>
> talk to you later,
> intane, I mean, indrane, ah, no, inflame, nono, ah well it's something along
> those lines!
> going inthanely into the sunset, "oh, it's the other way?",
> "oh well!" *shrug*, "I think I'll go thisswitchwhichaway"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christy Schulte" <christy@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Possibly OT, VMWare?
>
>
>> Looks like the scripts are on your grab bag site, however they don't seem
>> to work for me, at least with v2.0. Not sure if I need to revert to 1.x or
>>
>> what, but I'm having a heck of a time getting the thing to select an iso
>> image because it's not using standard html.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "InthaneElf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 2:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: Possibly OT, VMWare?
>>
>>
>>> Marlon,
>>>
>>> could you give the links to each of these resources, especially the
>>> scripts, I had them, but lost a lot of my stuff in HD problems recently,
>>> that and a company that was supposed to return a drive that didn't
>>>
>>> anyway, new copies would be a good thing for  me!
>>> inthane
>>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>>> for blind computer users and programmers
>>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>>> "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
>>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>>> Owner: Agemtree
>>> "merchants in fine facetted and cabochon gemstones"
>>> www.agemtree.com
>>> operator: Fruit Basket Demo Sight, where you can find a similar project
>>> done in several programming languages, along with its source code, so you
>>>
>>> can decide what language is right for you
>>> http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Marlon Brandão de Sousa" <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 4:28 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Possibly OT, VMWare?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello, Two e-mails replayed in one.
>>>>
>>>> Am I even on the right track as to what VMWare can do, and is it
>>>> possible to do this without sighted assistance on a computer that
>>>> already has windows installed?
>>>>
>>>> You are in the right track. Download vmware server and if you're using
>>>> JAWS you might want to download also the scripts I wrote to work with
>>>> it. The vmware server is a free package.
>>>>
>>>> If you research on this list and the old blindprogramming archives,
>>>> you will find a thorough discussion related to it.
>>>>
>>>> If so, is the price worth it, versus buying a new machine as a
>>>> dedicated linux box?
>>>>
>>>> If you buy a new machine to install linux you will get a better
>>>> performanse. However I would try the virtual machine first. May be its
>>>> performanse will feet what you want, may be it won't... but you will
>>>> have the oportunity of doing all tests you want without spending cash
>>>> and, if you decide you will need more performanse, then you can buy a
>>>> dedicated box.
>>>> From the operating system point of view (in this case linux), there're
>>>> no differences between running it on a virtual machine. The system
>>>> "isn't aware" it's running on a VM. So a virtual machine is a group of
>>>> files (with the size you choose to create your virtual HD plus some
>>>> kbs), which are used through vmware.
>>>> It shares your ram, your processor and your hardware such as sound
>>>> card and networking. You can however create a virtual enviroment the
>>>> way you whish, inside the vmware possibilities (e.e virtual machines
>>>> have their own ip addresses, their own ram, their own hd and can share
>>>> gracefully your cd / dvd, keyboard, mouse and etc). You can simulate
>>>> tons of hd partition types and also you can choose dinamically howmuch
>>>> of ram the vm will use.
>>>> As already said, the system in the VM don't even know it's in a
>>>> running a VM (it won't even know nothing about your physical machine,
>>>> but recognizing it on the same network if you set it this way).
>>>>
>>>> You cann set up your virtual machine with no sighted assistance. Once
>>>> the vm is created, it acts as a normal machine (it needs to have an
>>>> operating system installed). Some linux versions, such as Ubuntu,
>>>> allow an instalation with no sighted help (look for instructions in
>>>> the Orca screen reader site). Other operatiing systems and / or
>>>> versions (like windows or Slackware linux if you don't have a braille
>>>> display) don't allow for an installation with no sighted help .. but
>>>> it has nothing to do with the fact that you're installing them om a
>>>> vm. The gold rule is: Everything you can do in a physical machine you
>>>> can also do in a virtual machine.
>>>>
>>>> What, in terms of performance, would it be like if I ran a virtual
>>>> machine from my external hard disk compared to if I ran it from my
>>>> internal one?
>>>>
>>>> As your external Hard Disk is probably a little slower, you would also
>>>> loose performanse in the VM machine. It would be like if it you were
>>>> booting a system from your external HD in your physical machine * if
>>>> the disk is slower, then you loose performanse.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Marlon
>>>>
>>>> 2008/10/9, Christy Schulte <christy@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>> I've seen some discussion on this list regarding VMWare, and it sounded
>>>>>
>>>>> like
>>>>> this would make it possible to run linux and windows on the same
>>>>> machine at
>>>>> the same time. Seeing as how I very much want to get back into the
>>>>> linux
>>>>> scene for both personal and potentially future professional reasons I
>>>>> find
>>>>> this a fascinating prospect, so I did a little research. However,
>>>>> everything
>>>>> I'm seeing looks like it's intended for large businesses and data
>>>>> centers,
>>>>> which would be way, way over what I'd need for a single home computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> so my questions are as follows. Am I even on the right track as to what
>>>>> VMWare can do, and is it possible to do this without sighted assistance
>>>>>
>>>>> on a
>>>>> computer that already has windows installed? If so, is the price worth
>>>>> it,
>>>>> versus buying a new machine as a dedicated linux box? And if all this
>>>>> checks
>>>>> out, can someone give me a suggestion for which product I need to look
>>>>> for
>>>>> specifically?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a feeling that there's a hang up somewhere and that I'd just be
>>>>> better off buying a new machine when I can actually afford it, but I
>>>>> figure
>>>>> it never hurts to ask. If nothing else, I'll hopefully learn something.
>>>>> VMWare wasn't covered in the networking class I just completed.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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