Machine translation was Re: Perl module for translating languages
- From: "Dorene Cornwell" <dorenefc@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:43:29 -0700
Full disclosure: I tend toward the view that, quoting someone intimately
involved in the field, "All machine translation sucks; some machine
translation sucks less than others." My personal experience is that
Babelfish is consistently AWFUL for anything as long as whole sentence and
Google results are more varied.
So I am curious to the people who use it:
--Do you use it mainly for individual terms or do you attempt it with
phrases or sentences?
--Do you have any domains, such as programming or specific topics where you
get results you find reliable? How do you define reliable? (I can think of a
few indicators but I want to know what other people think first.)
--Do you have any domains or language pairs where you know you get bad
results regularly?
Thanks in advance for any comments
DoreneC
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Hi Jamal,
>
> If you want to create a program that does translations, you can use
> Lingua::Translate or REST::Google::Translate.
>
> With Lingua::Translate you can translate with Babelfish or Intertrans,
> depending on the backend you set the program. Here are a few examples:
>
> # Uses Babelfish:
>
> use Lingua::Translate;
>
> my $trans = Lingua::Translate->new(
> back_end => 'Babelfish',
> src => "en",
> dest => "it",
> );
>
> print $trans->translate("Hello world");
>
> #It prints: Ciao mondo
>
> #The following uses InterTran (the same with the InterTrans back-end):
>
> use Lingua::Translate;
>
> my $trans = Lingua::Translate->new(
> back_end => 'InterTran',
> src => "en",
> dest => "it",
> );
>
> print $trans->translate("Hello world");
>
> #It prints: Salve mondiale
>
> # The following uses Google:
>
> use REST::Google::Translate;
>
> REST::Google::Translate->http_referer('http://example.com');
>
> my $res = REST::Google::Translate->new(
> q => 'hello world',
> langpair => 'en|it',
> );
>
> die "response status failure" if $res->responseStatus != 200;
>
> my $translated = $res->responseData->translatedText;
>
> print $translated;
>
> #It prints: ciao a tutti
>
> Octavian
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Dunleavy" <jim.dunleavy@xxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 4:42 PM
>
> Subject: Re: Seeking help with a Perl module for translating languages
>
>
> Hi Jamal,
>>
>> I wrote a Python script that can query Yahoo Babelfish or Google
>> Translate.
>> I can post it if you are interested.
>>
>> --Jim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: Seeking help with a Perl module for translating languages
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the info. I'm looking for a programmatic way of doing a
>>> translation, that is, a way that a program I write can control the UI
>>> rather than depending on the UI of a web page or other desktop program.
>>> Do you know of something that meets this criteria?
>>>
>>> Jamal
>>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008,
>>> Demetry Yousifidou wrote:
>>>
>>> > Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:31:26 +0200
>>> > From: Demetry Yousifidou <demetry.yousifidou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > Subject: Re: Seeking help with a Perl module for translating languages
>>> >
>>> > Hi Jamal, try the translator from Google.com -> Language Tools or the
>>> > web and the program from www.QuickDic.org <http://www.quickdic.org/>.
>>> > HTH.
>>> >
>>> > Demetry
>>> >
>>> > On 10/14/2008 11:23 PM, Jamal Mazrui wrote:
>>> > > With Perl 5.8, I am trying to use the module WWW::Search::Translator,
>>> > > which programmatically translates text between different natural
>>>
>> languages
>>
>>> > > using babel.altavista.com.
>>> > >
>>> > > When I run the sample code in the documentation, I get an error about
>>>
>> a
>>
>>> > > missing param function. After web searches, I found that the CGI
>>>
>> module
>>
>>> > > includes a function by that name, but using that module as well
>>>
>> produced
>>
>>> > > another error message instead.
>>> > >
>>> > > Can anyone help? Below is the error message, followed by the code.
>>> > >
>>> > > Jamal
>>> > >
>>> > > Undefined subroutine &main::param called at TranLang.pl line 2.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > use WWW::Search;
>>> > > %opts = (
>>> > > lp => param(en_de),
>>> > > );
>>> > > $query = "a whole bunch of english text to be translated to
>>>
>> german";
>>
>>> > > my $search = new WWW::Search('Translator');
>>> > > $search->native_query(WWW::Search::escape_query($query),\%opts);
>>> > > while (my $result = $search->next_result())
>>> > > {
>>> > > $p = $result->raw;
>>> > > print "$p";
>>> > > }
>>> > >
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