Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?

  • From: "David Engebretson Jr." <d.engebretson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:42:36 -0700

I don't think they make the Moto Q anymore. Want to buy mine? I give it to you cheap cheap.


Verizon doesn't stock it anymore, either.

I'm going the way of Android. Too much good stuff to pass up and most of it is free. Too bad Linux development is so command line oriented. It just seems cumbersome to me to have to go back to the way I did things back in the days of DOS. Hopefully someone will enlighten me about how uncumbersome Linux development is.

Technology abound!,
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Homme, James" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 4:16 AM
Subject: RE: Is Android Programming Accessible?


Hi,
Do they make this phone anymore?

Jim

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-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Engebretson Jr.
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 7:56 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?

Motorola Q is a Microsoft Smart Phone, meaning it doesn't have a touch
screen.  It does have a QWERTY keyboard.  I use it with Talks from Verizon.

You can also create programs for the Motorola Q.  You just need a
professional IDE from Microsoft and the appropriate SDK for the OS you are
running.

Cheers,
David

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?


ok,
can anyone tell me what the motorola q looks like?
is it a regular phone where you hit 1-9 instead of certain keyboard
letters?
why did mobile speak restrict themselves to not running on phones like the
razr v3?
i asked about android stuff because windows mobile phones seem hard to
find.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jared Wright" <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?


Android is probably  not up your alley, then. It's going for the computer
in your pocket thing.

On 07/30/2010 07:24 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
seems all of what you mention is web based.
all i want is to have a talking phone with sms texting.
i'll use a laptop for the rest and save $40+ a month.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cox" <waywardgeek@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?


I wouldn't say it speaks "all" other menus, but it does seem pretty
close.  There are annoying gaps in some popular applications.  The
microphone icon on the search bar is not spoken, and neither are other
icons on most other widgets.  Some desktop widgets are not accessible
at all.  There's not quite enough of the right kind of information
spoken, like what row and column you're on when browsing the desktop.

However, the progress is very encouraging, and at some point I suspect
blind programmers will get involved and progress will accelerate.
What has to happen first is for Android to become the platform of
choice for the blind.  I think that will happen.

Bill

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Alphonso McFadden
<techsales2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So does this mean it speaks all other menue's?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cox" <waywardgeek@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?


Hi, Bryan. Talkback in Android 2.2 is getting close to usable, but
not quite there. The main problem remaining is that the browser and
e-mail applications are not accessible, both of which I think use
webkit. Work on making it accessible is underway. I think we can
count on Google to get it where it needs to be, but I can't estimate
the timeline.

Bill

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Bryan Schulz <b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

hi,

i called a local at&t wireless store and most of what they sell are
the
android operating system.
will mobile speak be created for this system or will there possibly be
a
free open source app to make these phones talk?
i would like to get an unlocked phone with no monthly fee off ebay for
a
low
talk time charge when needed solution.
Bryan Schulz


----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <davidct1209@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?


I'm relatively new to Android land as well, but from what I've done
so
far, yes, it's accessible depending on your experience.

Android comes with a variety of development tools; there's, as you
mentioned, a plugin for Eclipse to help streamline the development
experience (auto generated project files).

However, all of this can be done by hand via the Android SDK using
command line tools. One can also specify UI elements within an
AndroidManifest xml file.

The learning curve isn't too bad as long as you are fairly
comfortable
with exploring the technology stack (from the tools, to the SDK, to
the application concepts such as intents, broadcasts, services, etc.
and finally to managing a real device such as flashing, rooting,
etc.).

Hth.

On 7/29/10, David Engebretson Jr. <d.engebretson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I asked the same question a week back or so and didn't get a
response.
Maybe we'll need to explore it together. try eyesfree.google.com

cheers,
david

David Engebretson Jr., CTO Peace Weaver Hosting
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Jaquiss" <rjaquiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 5:13 PM
Subject: Is Android Programming Accessible?


Hello:

I am looking at a possible project that requires programming for an
Android based device. Has anyone done this? My research to date
indicates
that Java is used with the Eclipse IDE and an Android SDK.

Regards,

Robert

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