Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
- From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:46:05 -0400 (EDT)
Phew -- guess I'm safe then!
Jamal
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Jim Dunleavy wrote:
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:58:43 +0100
> From: Jim Dunleavy <jim.dunleavy@xxxxxx>
> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
>
> Hi Jamal,
>
> You're only at risk if you've lots of money.
>
> --Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
>
>
> > Good ideas, Jim. I wonder if I'm also at risk for being sued for
> > emulating the JAWS keyboard interface with my Homer Layout script!
> >
> > Jamal
> > On
> > Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Jim Dunleavy wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:16:52 +0100
> > > From: Jim Dunleavy <jim.dunleavy@xxxxxx>
> > > Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> > >
> > > Hi Jamal,
> > >
> > > I wonder if Sun Microsystems is also at risk of being sued
> > > over Orca's bookmarks feature.
> > > We should try to get as much bad publicity as possible for FS.
> > > Maybe Groklaw would cover the story?
> > > Groklaw has helped on previous occasions to find prior art in
> > > cases where products bases on free software have been attacked,
> > > Barracuda being sued by Trend Micro over ClamAV being a notable example.
> > > It seems the point of software patents is not to protect innovation,
> > > but is about a much dirtier game altogether.
> > > I wasn't at all amazed by this.
> > >
> > > --Jim
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:21 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Ken,
> > > > I suspect you were being tongue in cheeck (and I love your sense of
> > > > humor!). Although legal fights can be entertaining, I don't see how
> this
> > > > is in the interest of blind people, forcing a company to spend money
> on
> > > > defending against litigation rather than on R&D to improve access to
> > > > mainstream software.
> > > >
> > > > FYI -- the patent FS claims was violated is described at
> > > >
> > >
> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fn
> > >
> etahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=%226,993,707
> > > +B2%22&OS=
> > > >
> > > > I'm amazed that FS thought its placemarker feature was innovative
> enough
> > > > to patent. This seems like an example of taking advantage of the
> magical
> > > > nature of assistive technology to the uninformed, and then trying to
> > > > leverage it in questionable trade practices for corporate gain. The
> fact
> > > > that GW was never notified of the concern while its product has been
> in
> > > > beta with public demos strongly suggests that the aim is to damage GW
> > > > economically, not actually to protect intellectual property.
> > > >
> > > > What do others think?
> > > >
> > > > Jamal
> > > > On
> > > > Fri, 25 Jul
> > > > 2008, Ken Perry wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:43:30 -0700
> > > > > From: Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I say let them fight and while they are fighting I hope Saratek is
> > > coding.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ken
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared
> Wright
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:58 PM
> > > > > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi James, Worked here just now, so I'm not sure what's at fault. The
> > > long
> > > > > and short is that Freedom claims GW Micro's implementation of
> webpage
> > > > > placemarkers in Window Eyes 7 violates their patint on, I guess,
> being
> > > able
> > > > > to have placemarkers on a webpage. They filed litigation today.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jared
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jared
> > > > >
> > > > > James Panes wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just thought I would let you know that this page is not available.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did FS lawyers have something to do with this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > "Everything is easy when you know how."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Jared Wright" <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:53 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> http://www.gwmicro.com/blog/index.php/all/2008/07/24/do_companies_real
> > > > > > ly_compete_on_who_has_t
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Read it and weep, at least if seeing screen readers compete on
> their
> > > > > > functionality for all our general betterment is at all appealing
> to
> > > you.
> > > > > > Jared
> > > > > >
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