Hi Jamal, I wonder if Sun Microsystems is also at risk of being sued over Orca's bookmarks feature. We should try to get as much bad publicity as possible for FS. Maybe Groklaw would cover the story? Groklaw has helped on previous occasions to find prior art in cases where products bases on free software have been attacked, Barracuda being sued by Trend Micro over ClamAV being a notable example. It seems the point of software patents is not to protect innovation, but is about a much dirtier game altogether. I wasn't at all amazed by this. --Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:21 PM Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again > Hi Ken, > I suspect you were being tongue in cheeck (and I love your sense of > humor!). Although legal fights can be entertaining, I don't see how this > is in the interest of blind people, forcing a company to spend money on > defending against litigation rather than on R&D to improve access to > mainstream software. > > FYI -- the patent FS claims was violated is described at > http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fn etahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=%226,993,707 +B2%22&OS= > > I'm amazed that FS thought its placemarker feature was innovative enough > to patent. This seems like an example of taking advantage of the magical > nature of assistive technology to the uninformed, and then trying to > leverage it in questionable trade practices for corporate gain. The fact > that GW was never notified of the concern while its product has been in > beta with public demos strongly suggests that the aim is to damage GW > economically, not actually to protect intellectual property. > > What do others think? > > Jamal > On > Fri, 25 Jul > 2008, Ken Perry wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:43:30 -0700 > > From: Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again > > > > > > > > I say let them fight and while they are fighting I hope Saratek is coding. > > > > Ken > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:58 PM > > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again > > > > Hi James, Worked here just now, so I'm not sure what's at fault. The long > > and short is that Freedom claims GW Micro's implementation of webpage > > placemarkers in Window Eyes 7 violates their patint on, I guess, being able > > to have placemarkers on a webpage. They filed litigation today. > > > > Jared > > > > > > Jared > > > > James Panes wrote: > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > Just thought I would let you know that this page is not available. > > > > > > Did FS lawyers have something to do with this? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jim > > > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx > > > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > "Everything is easy when you know how." > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jared Wright" <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:53 PM > > > Subject: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again > > > > > > > > > http://www.gwmicro.com/blog/index.php/all/2008/07/24/do_companies_real > > > ly_compete_on_who_has_t > > > > > > Read it and weep, at least if seeing screen readers compete on their > > > functionality for all our general betterment is at all appealing to you. > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > > > __________ > > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Information in this email (including attachments) is confidential. 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