Re: Frames question

  • From: "Bryan Garaventa" <bgaraventa11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:58:12 -0800

I'm coming into this thread somewhat late, but hidden frames can be used to good effect for this purpose without appearing clunky.
The problem with strictly JavaScript methods, such as using the XMLHttp ActiveX to fetch content within web pages, is that you sometimes get different and unintended behavior on different browsers and OS's.
You can do the same using a hidden frame by sending your variables into the url of the src of a hidden iframe, then use JavaScript to read the results and display them in a div on the page. This way, the page doesn't refresh, and you keep all other page components visible. 

Hope this helps,

Bryan
----- Original Message ----- From: "Juan Hernandez" <blindmagik@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: RE: Frames question
OH, my bad. I thought the idea was to keep the content there, but show new 
content when a link in IE. A nav bar was clicked.  With PHP this would
envolve a reload of the entire page.

If you just want to change the page content dynamicly with out
refresh/reload, javascript or other client side technologies are required.
I'm sorry if I understood the question wrong.


Best,

Juan

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita 
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:41 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Frames question

I don't understand how you can do this with PHP or any other server side
scripting language. Can you explain?
Please tell us how you can click on a link and then display some content in the same page without reloading the whole page if you don't use frames or a 
client side language like Javascript.

Thanks.

Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Hernandez" <blindmagik@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:55 AM
Subject: RE: Frames question



Nope, no need for java script and no frames, frames are bad.

Check out php and php includes.

Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian

Rasnita

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:14 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Frames question

What you want is not possible without frames or Javascript.
I understand that you want the navigation links to remain displayed after
clicking on them, so either the body content shows in a frame, or a
Javascript code makes an HTTP request to the server, gets the data and
displays it in the current page.

It is very nice for the sighted this way, but this is its only advantage.

Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:14 PM
Subject: RE: Frames question
Well I've got a coldfusion way of getting the menu from a single file, so 
no
problem there; the thing is I guess they want the navigation menu visible 
at

all times. Kind of click that Item and the body frame would display the
data, click another item, same thing...all that while the navigation menu 
is

still displayed.

D!J!X!


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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler
Littlefield
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:37 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Frames question


it really depends on what your using. Frames are still in use, though I
personally recommend just including your menu via:
<?php include "menu.php"; ?>
Then you edit menu.php (which can just be html), and the menu changes
everywhere.
----- Original Message ----- From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: BlindProgramming <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:32 PM
Subject: Frames question

Hello guys, I'm hoping that someone who is up to date in the web sites

trend

can answer. Are  frames still being used, or have they been replaced by
something else? I ask because this site I'm building has a fancy

navigation

menu which is to remain on the top of the site while the body changes, I
know back when I worked at Nasa we would all say "o of course use frames" 
which is fine for inside apps and stuff, but this is more of a comercial

web

site... Any info appreciated. Or if there's a more eligant/modern way of
applying the navigation menu and changing content.

Thanks, D!J!X!



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