why? You still see that your managing your site with droople, and it doesn't look professional at all. Especially if people can see that you designed this big professional website with something that easy. ----- Original Message ----- From: E.J. Zufelt To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Frames question Depending one what you're doing I'd recommend not coding the core functionality of the site yourself, but instead using a content management system like Drupal. Everett On 10-Feb-09, at 6:36 PM, Tyler Littlefield wrote: it really depends on what your using. Frames are still in use, though I personally recommend just including your menu via: <?php include "menu.php"; ?> Then you edit menu.php (which can just be html), and the menu changes everywhere. ----- Original Message ----- From: D!J!X! To: BlindProgramming Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:32 PM Subject: Frames question Hello guys, I'm hoping that someone who is up to date in the web sites trend can answer. Are frames still being used, or have they been replaced by something else? I ask because this site I'm building has a fancy navigation menu which is to remain on the top of the site while the body changes, I know back when I worked at Nasa we would all say "o of course use frames" which is fine for inside apps and stuff, but this is more of a comercial web site... Any info appreciated. Or if there's a more eligant/modern way of applying the navigation menu and changing content. Thanks, D!J!X!