Re: Frames question
- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:23:56 +0200
Is that "return false" from the onClick event handler really required?
It is very annoying if a user wants to open the new page in a new window by
clicking Shift+Enter but can't do that because the <a> element doesn't have a
valid href element or if the onClick event returns false.
Thanks for the code.
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Garaventa" <bgaraventa11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: Frames question
> Sure, just make two files using the info below to see it work.
>
> File name: Test.html
> <html><body>
>
> <script type="text/javascript">
>
> function update() {
>
> document.getElementById('NewContent').innerHTML = NewStuff;
>
> }
>
> </script>
>
> <div>
>
> <a
>
> onclick="document.frames['testFrm'].location.href='MyContent.html';return(false);"
>
> href=#>Test Link</a>
>
> </div>
>
> <div id="NewContent"></div>
>
> <iframe id=testFrm name=testFrm src=# width=0 height=0
> style="display:none;visibility:hidden;"></iframe>
>
> </body></html>
>
>
> Second file name: MyContent.html
> <html><body>
>
> <div id="DynamicContent">
>
> This is a test...
>
> </div>
>
> <script type="text/javascript">
>
> parent.NewStuff = document.getElementById('DynamicContent').innerHTML;
>
> parent.update();
>
> </script>
>
> </body></html>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 2:02 PM
> Subject: RE: Frames question
>
>
>> Sounds like something worth persuing, could you give me some more info on
>> this method or somewhere I can read up on it? I'll google and see what I
>> can
>> find.
>>
>> Thanks, D!J!X!
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan
>> Garaventa
>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:58 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Frames question
>>
>> I'm coming into this thread somewhat late, but hidden frames can be used
>> to
>> good effect for this purpose without appearing clunky.
>>
>> The problem with strictly JavaScript methods, such as using the XMLHttp
>> ActiveX to fetch content within web pages, is that you sometimes get
>> different and unintended behavior on different browsers and OS's.
>>
>> You can do the same using a hidden frame by sending your variables into
>> the
>> url of the src of a hidden iframe, then use JavaScript to read the results
>> and display them in a div on the page. This way, the page doesn't refresh,
>> and you keep all other page components visible.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Juan Hernandez" <blindmagik@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:15 AM
>> Subject: RE: Frames question
>>
>>
>>> OH, my bad. I thought the idea was to keep the content there, but show
>>> new
>>> content when a link in IE. A nav bar was clicked. With PHP this would
>>> envolve a reload of the entire page.
>>>
>>> If you just want to change the page content dynamicly with out
>>> refresh/reload, javascript or other client side technologies are
>>> required.
>>> I'm sorry if I understood the question wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Juan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian
>>> Rasnita
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:41 AM
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: Frames question
>>>
>>> I don't understand how you can do this with PHP or any other server side
>>> scripting language. Can you explain?
>>>
>>> Please tell us how you can click on a link and then display some content
>>> in
>>> the same page without reloading the whole page if you don't use frames or
>>> a
>>> client side language like Javascript.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Octavian
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Juan Hernandez" <blindmagik@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:55 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Frames question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Nope, no need for java script and no frames, frames are bad.
>>>>
>>>> Check out php and php includes.
>>>>
>>>> Take care.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian
>>> Rasnita
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:14 PM
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: Frames question
>>>>
>>>> What you want is not possible without frames or Javascript.
>>>> I understand that you want the navigation links to remain displayed
>>>> after
>>>> clicking on them, so either the body content shows in a frame, or a
>>>> Javascript code makes an HTTP request to the server, gets the data and
>>>> displays it in the current page.
>>>>
>>>> It is very nice for the sighted this way, but this is its only
>>>> advantage.
>>>>
>>>> Octavian
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:14 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: Frames question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well I've got a coldfusion way of getting the menu from a single file,
>>>>> so
>>>> no
>>>>> problem there; the thing is I guess they want the navigation menu
>>>>> visible
>>>> at
>>>>> all times. Kind of click that Item and the body frame would display the
>>>>> data, click another item, same thing...all that while the navigation
>>>>> menu
>>>> is
>>>>> still displayed.
>>>>>
>>>>> D!J!X!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _____
>>>>>
>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler
>>>>> Littlefield
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:37 PM
>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: Re: Frames question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it really depends on what your using. Frames are still in use, though I
>>>>> personally recommend just including your menu via:
>>>>> <?php include "menu.php"; ?>
>>>>> Then you edit menu.php (which can just be html), and the menu changes
>>>>> everywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: BlindProgramming <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:32 PM
>>>>> Subject: Frames question
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello guys, I'm hoping that someone who is up to date in the web sites
>>>> trend
>>>>> can answer. Are frames still being used, or have they been replaced by
>>>>> something else? I ask because this site I'm building has a fancy
>>>> navigation
>>>>> menu which is to remain on the top of the site while the body changes,
>>>>> I
>>>>> know back when I worked at Nasa we would all say "o of course use
>>>>> frames"
>>>>> which is fine for inside apps and stuff, but this is more of a
>>>>> comercial
>>>> web
>>>>> site... Any info appreciated. Or if there's a more eligant/modern way
>>>>> of
>>>>> applying the navigation menu and changing content.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, D!J!X!
>>>>>
>>>>>
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