RE: Frames question
- From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:02:15 -0500
Sounds like something worth persuing, could you give me some more info on
this method or somewhere I can read up on it? I'll google and see what I can
find.
Thanks, D!J!X!
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan Garaventa
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:58 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Frames question
I'm coming into this thread somewhat late, but hidden frames can be used to
good effect for this purpose without appearing clunky.
The problem with strictly JavaScript methods, such as using the XMLHttp
ActiveX to fetch content within web pages, is that you sometimes get
different and unintended behavior on different browsers and OS's.
You can do the same using a hidden frame by sending your variables into the
url of the src of a hidden iframe, then use JavaScript to read the results
and display them in a div on the page. This way, the page doesn't refresh,
and you keep all other page components visible.
Hope this helps,
Bryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Hernandez" <blindmagik@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: RE: Frames question
> OH, my bad. I thought the idea was to keep the content there, but show
> new
> content when a link in IE. A nav bar was clicked. With PHP this would
> envolve a reload of the entire page.
>
> If you just want to change the page content dynamicly with out
> refresh/reload, javascript or other client side technologies are required.
> I'm sorry if I understood the question wrong.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Juan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian
> Rasnita
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:41 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Frames question
>
> I don't understand how you can do this with PHP or any other server side
> scripting language. Can you explain?
>
> Please tell us how you can click on a link and then display some content
> in
> the same page without reloading the whole page if you don't use frames or
> a
> client side language like Javascript.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Octavian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Juan Hernandez" <blindmagik@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:55 AM
> Subject: RE: Frames question
>
>
>> Nope, no need for java script and no frames, frames are bad.
>>
>> Check out php and php includes.
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian
> Rasnita
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:14 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Frames question
>>
>> What you want is not possible without frames or Javascript.
>> I understand that you want the navigation links to remain displayed after
>> clicking on them, so either the body content shows in a frame, or a
>> Javascript code makes an HTTP request to the server, gets the data and
>> displays it in the current page.
>>
>> It is very nice for the sighted this way, but this is its only advantage.
>>
>> Octavian
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:14 PM
>> Subject: RE: Frames question
>>
>>
>>> Well I've got a coldfusion way of getting the menu from a single file,
>>> so
>> no
>>> problem there; the thing is I guess they want the navigation menu
>>> visible
>> at
>>> all times. Kind of click that Item and the body frame would display the
>>> data, click another item, same thing...all that while the navigation
>>> menu
>> is
>>> still displayed.
>>>
>>> D!J!X!
>>>
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler
>>> Littlefield
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:37 PM
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: Frames question
>>>
>>>
>>> it really depends on what your using. Frames are still in use, though I
>>> personally recommend just including your menu via:
>>> <?php include "menu.php"; ?>
>>> Then you edit menu.php (which can just be html), and the menu changes
>>> everywhere.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: BlindProgramming <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:32 PM
>>> Subject: Frames question
>>>
>>> Hello guys, I'm hoping that someone who is up to date in the web sites
>> trend
>>> can answer. Are frames still being used, or have they been replaced by
>>> something else? I ask because this site I'm building has a fancy
>> navigation
>>> menu which is to remain on the top of the site while the body changes, I
>>> know back when I worked at Nasa we would all say "o of course use
>>> frames"
>>> which is fine for inside apps and stuff, but this is more of a comercial
>> web
>>> site... Any info appreciated. Or if there's a more eligant/modern way of
>>> applying the navigation menu and changing content.
>>>
>>> Thanks, D!J!X!
>>>
>>>
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