Nope, no need for java script and no frames, frames are bad. Check out php and php includes. Take care. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:14 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Frames question What you want is not possible without frames or Javascript. I understand that you want the navigation links to remain displayed after clicking on them, so either the body content shows in a frame, or a Javascript code makes an HTTP request to the server, gets the data and displays it in the current page. It is very nice for the sighted this way, but this is its only advantage. Octavian ----- Original Message ----- From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:14 PM Subject: RE: Frames question > Well I've got a coldfusion way of getting the menu from a single file, so no > problem there; the thing is I guess they want the navigation menu visible at > all times. Kind of click that Item and the body frame would display the > data, click another item, same thing...all that while the navigation menu is > still displayed. > > D!J!X! > > > _____ > > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler > Littlefield > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:37 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Frames question > > > it really depends on what your using. Frames are still in use, though I > personally recommend just including your menu via: > <?php include "menu.php"; ?> > Then you edit menu.php (which can just be html), and the menu changes > everywhere. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: BlindProgramming <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:32 PM > Subject: Frames question > > Hello guys, I'm hoping that someone who is up to date in the web sites trend > can answer. Are frames still being used, or have they been replaced by > something else? I ask because this site I'm building has a fancy navigation > menu which is to remain on the top of the site while the body changes, I > know back when I worked at Nasa we would all say "o of course use frames" > which is fine for inside apps and stuff, but this is more of a comercial web > site... Any info appreciated. Or if there's a more eligant/modern way of > applying the navigation menu and changing content. > > Thanks, D!J!X! > > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind