Re: BlindConfidential: Learning to Program for the Blind
- From: "Arnold Bailey" <arnoldbail@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:48:29 -0500
Thanks for the guidance. I sort of took it away from Chris. But, it did help
a lot.
Thanks again,
Arnold
On Nov 12, 2007 3:59 PM, inthaneelf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> will do, as soon as I finish my brunch, smile
>
> inthane
> • For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and
> Links to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me
> at:
> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
> • to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming
> languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at:
> http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Chris Hofstader <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; akogan3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Monday, November 12, 2007 4:12 AM
> *Subject:* RE: BlindConfidential: Learning to Program for the Blind
>
> Can those of you who have the helpful ideas for the woman asking where to
> start teaching a middle school student please send responses to her
> directly?
>
>
>
> Her email is: akogan3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> *From:* programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Arnold Bailey
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 11, 2007 6:27 PM
> *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: BlindConfidential: Learning to Program for the Blind
>
>
>
> Chris,
>
> I have also been looking into the same issue. If you look at my website
> http://www.blind411.org/ITCareers/ under teachers"->course plans, I am
> building a series of course sessions. These are being presented to blind and
> visually impaired middle and high school students in our school district. In
> my approach I will:
>
> 1. Introduce Information Technology as a career. You'll see the
> presentation link.
> 2. I decided on Python to introduce the concept of programming. It is an
> interpretive and can be executed interactively. This allows hands on and
> experience the results immediately. Also, the IDLE (GUI) interface seems to
> be better for the visually impaired because of the font; and, the command
> line interface is needed for Jaws for the blind students. You'll see a link
> to my scenario. Downloading and installing python is easy. You'll see the
> link there also.
> 3. My next plan is to teach Java to any of the students who feel like
> trying programming. I picked Java because it is widely taught in colleges as
> an introduction to compsci. It is also C like and it is object oriented. If
> you click in the nav links on learning Java, you see the links to install it
> and some tutorials.
>
> The site is intended for student instruction. The references and links
> were largely gotten through this mailing list by a lot of generous and
> knowledgeable programmers. I kept references/tutorials/etc. to a minimum
> because there is way too much information out there. Sometimes focus is
> needed.
>
> I have many years of programming experience in more languages than I care
> to admit. I have only a minimal cursory knowledge of Java; but, when I start
> instruction, I'll read up on the Java tutorials. I planned to instruct via
> email/skype and the online tutorials; but, I haven't gotten to that point
> yet. In a couple months, I should be ready.
>
> Contact me via email if I can help in any way.
>
> Arnold
>
> On Nov 11, 2007 4:10 PM, inthaneelf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> I don't totally agree with the statement about learning jaws scripting to
> learn programming, but the rest of those recommendations work. more on
> this
> though, is what programming instructional classes (both in there high
> school, and outside/after)are available in there area.
>
> if any or all the basic languages are readily available, then what does he
>
> wish to program, as we all know, the language should be based on his
> learning style, and what he wishes to do, anywhere from visual basic.netand
> C#, to java, to C and C++ or raw assembler are available to him, along
> with
> html, xhtml, xml, asp.net incorporated with C# or VB, PHP, and the rest of
> that group.
>
> so, I'd say that the main question is what does this student wish to do,
> then they can go from there!
>
> if you want, give the person that contacted you my E mail and I'd be more
> than willing to talk with them at length on what can be done, and since I
> am
> an information monger, and not much of a programmer, but do have some
> knowledge in programming, I think... I'm not as set in stone as to a
> particular language or learning method, so may be able to tackle it with a
> bit more "All around lack of preference".
>
> HTH,
> Inthane
> • For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and
> Links
> to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at:
> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
> • to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming
> languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at:
> http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx >
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 7:50 AM
> Subject: RE: BlindConfidential: Learning to Program for the Blind
>
>
> > Hi there,
> > I would presonally recommend this student to:
> > * Subscribe to number of mailing list such as Blind Programming list.
> > * Search on Google for tutorials on basic programming.
> > * Take online AP Computer Science course to learn about Java, object
> > oriented programming, etc.
> > The best way to start in programming would be learning about JAWS
> scripts.
> > This should allow a student to learn how JAWS actually works, under what
> a
> > variable, function and other things in programming mean and to learn how
> > to
> > interpret script languages. Then I would recommend this person to study
> C
> > or
> > Java. Or, if the student is interested, he can learn HTML to code
> > websites.
> > Cheers,
> > Joseph P.S. I'm also a high school student so I understand Wilkins'
> > situation.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris
> > Hofstader
> > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 7:38 AM
> > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: FW: BlindConfidential: Learning to Program for the Blind
> >
> > Can people here help this person?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anya Kogan [mailto:akogan3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:47 PM
> > To: Chris.Hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: BlindConfidential: Learning to Program for the Blind
> >
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > I am a graduate student at the Georgia Institute of Technology and also
> a
> > new volunteer at the Center for the Visually Impaired in Atlanta. I
> > assist
> > in teaching the computer class there to blind and visually impaired
> > students. I am sighted myself and very new to the challenges of being
> > visually impaired. One of my students is a blind high-school age boy
> > named
> > Wilkens. Wilkens is very proficient in the computer basics using Jaws.
> > He
> > very quickly and easily surfs the net, types on Microsoft Word and uses
> > Microsoft Excel. He has now expressed interest in learning to program.
> I
> > am very new to programming myself, but would be willing to learn.
> > However,
> > how can I teach or at least assist a blind young man to program? I am
> not
> > even sure where to begin. Can you recommend any resources or lend
> > any advice on this topic? Do you know of any online tutorials?
> > Courses? What language should he start with? Is there a first project
> > that
> > would benefit him? Any help that you can lend me would be most
> > appreciated.
> > Wilkens has a lot of drive and I would hate to have that go to waste.
> >
> > Best,
> > Anya
> >
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