RE: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in the language

  • From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:46:37 -0500

You are correct but if you really want to get technical because you can
write a c application with a c++ compiler then c++ is a monkey wrench you
can use for both.  So technically it is both a high and low level language.


Ken

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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:38 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in the
language

I thought C was the low level language and c++ the high level
language.  OOP makes c++ higher level because of classes, templates
and such.  Am I mistaken?

Alex M

On 3/9/11, Littlefield, Tyler <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Sina: I'm using a low-level language when I use c++. I expect Python and
> C# and Java to change. I do -not- expect a low level to change. It's low
> level afterall, what are you going to do? Cram a networking lib into the
> stl? Medications change (high level stuff), but what they build them off
> of doesn't in some cases. Look at antibiotics; it's been around forever.
> I suppose we should just toss it, it's not keepign up with pase.
> On 3/9/2011 4:54 PM, Sina Bahram wrote:
>> Man, am I glad medicine sure doesn't work that way.
>>
>> But hey, *smile*, I'm sure doctors would love to not learn anything new,
>> *grin*.
>>
>> This is my personal advice, so take it or leave it.
>>
>> Every single language specific thing you learn is worth nothing more than
>> the fleeting bits used to represent the ascii characters
>> explaining it to you. It is nothing more than syntactic garbage taking up
>> space in your head.. this has been true for the past 60 to
>> 70 years, and it will be true for the next 70 years.
>>
>> That's why you should concentrate on learning concepts. Who cares if you
>> can write a binary tree in C++, if you can't also write it,
>> after only glancing at a reference manual for 10 minutes, in 25 other
>> languages.
>>
>> languages come and go, but concepts hardly change.
>>
>> So, you can either focus and obsess on the 2011 specific stuff, or the
>> stuff that has been true ever since Charles Babbage made his
>> difference engine over a century ago.
>>
>> And for you ladies out there, yes I'm aware that Ada Lovelace actually
did
>> all the hard work, *grin*.
>>
>> Take care,
>> Sina
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Take care,
>> Sina
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:48 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in
>> the language
>>
>> Well, I'm glad the language has held still over the years.  I'm stil a
>> novice in this language and I'm glad I don't have to be so worried
>> about my book or tutorial containing obselete code as I would be for
>> Java.  You can still take a c++ book written in 2004 or 2005 or
>> something like that and use it to learn with.  Unless I'm mistaken,
>> you can't do this with c# or Java.  I tried looking at Java a few
>> months back and kept finding all these books that seemed to have a
>> bunch of things you had to change with subsequent versions of Java.
>> So, I for one am glad too much change hasn't come too quickly to it.
>>
>> Alex M
>>
>> On 3/9/11, Sina Bahram<sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>> Fine, seriously belated, delayed, and not as useful as it would have
been
>>> 10
>>> years ago.
>>>
>>> Take car,e
>>> Sina
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
>>> Tyler
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:39 PM
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in
>>> the
>>> language
>>>
>>> But it wasn't. This is a long time in coming, but it doesn't make it
>>> useless.
>>> On 3/9/2011 3:41 PM, Sina Bahram wrote:
>>>> Wow, how many decades has it been?
>>>>
>>>> Oh well, better later than never, or something, I'm sure.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, this is kind of useless.
>>>>
>>>> This should have been done in 1999.
>>>>
>>>> Take care,
>>>> Sina
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex
Midence
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:17 PM
>>>> To: programmingblind
>>>> Subject: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in the
>>>> language
>>>>
>>>> http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/media/C++0x%20-%20An%20Overview.html
>>>>
>>>> Fascinating video from the man himself.  Interesting to hear his
>>>> voice.  For those who don't know, Bjarne Stroustrup is the man who
>>>> invented c++.  The language was originally called c with classes but
>>>> then, he changed the name to c++ because in c, the ++ means
>>>> incremental addition.
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>
>>>> Alex M
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