RE: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in the language

  • From: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:08:24 -0800

Hi,
I agree with Sina on this point. The thing is, languages are created to either solve a specific problem or to be used on specific devices or OS platform. C++ is still a language of choice for some developers, but there are others out there which simplifies development effort at the cost of not knowing the insides of what's happening at the machine level. Personally, I'd prefer learning the equivalent syntax of two or more languages and how they differ before diving into advanced concepts like trees and tables (and yes, Tyler, I learned how to write hash function with bit manipulation). But, as I can say from experience, it is better to understand what's going on rather than the word description of what you are doing - for instance, you don't want to mess around with graph creation unless if you know how edges are represented (I prefer lists since they are easy to use than matrices, but matrix makes more sense from graphics point of view).
That's all - JMO.
Cheers,
Joseph

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:54:49 -0500
Subject: RE: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in the language

Man, am I glad medicine sure doesn't work that way.

But hey, *smile*, I'm sure doctors would love to not learn anything new, *grin*.

This is my personal advice, so take it or leave it.

Every single language specific thing you learn is worth nothing more than the fleeting bits used to represent the ascii characters explaining it to you. It is nothing more than syntactic garbage taking up space in your head.. this has been true for the past 60 to
70 years, and it will be true for the next 70 years.

That's why you should concentrate on learning concepts. Who cares if you can write a binary tree in C++, if you can't also write it, after only glancing at a reference manual for 10 minutes, in 25 other languages.

languages come and go, but concepts hardly change.

So, you can either focus and obsess on the 2011 specific stuff, or the stuff that has been true ever since Charles Babbage made his
difference engine over a century ago.

And for you ladies out there, yes I'm aware that Ada Lovelace actually did all the hard work, *grin*.

Take care,
Sina






Take care,
Sina


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:48 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in the language

Well, I'm glad the language has held still over the years. I'm stil a novice in this language and I'm glad I don't have to be so worried about my book or tutorial containing obselete code as I would be for
Java.  You can still take a c++ book written in 2004 or 2005 or
something like that and use it to learn with. Unless I'm mistaken,
you can't do this with c# or Java.  I tried looking at Java a few
months back and kept finding all these books that seemed to have a bunch of things you had to change with subsequent versions of Java. So, I for one am glad too much change hasn't come too quickly to it.

Alex M

On 3/9/11, Sina Bahram <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Fine, seriously belated, delayed, and not as useful as it would have been 10
years ago.

Take car,e
Sina


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
Tyler
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:39 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in the
language

But it wasn't. This is a long time in coming, but it doesn't make it
useless.
On 3/9/2011 3:41 PM, Sina Bahram wrote:
Wow, how many decades has it been?

Oh well, better later than never, or something, I'm sure.

Sorry, this is kind of useless.

This should have been done in 1999.

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:17 PM
To: programmingblind
Subject: Bjarne Stroustrup talks about c++ and upcoming features in the
language

http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/media/C++0x%20-%20An%20Overview.html

Fascinating video from the man himself.  Interesting to hear his
voice. For those who don't know, Bjarne Stroustrup is the man who invented c++. The language was originally called c with classes but
then, he changed the name to c++ because in c, the ++ means
incremental addition.

Enjoy,

Alex M
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Thanks,
Ty

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