Thank you Cy, I do have a lot of programs on my computer, because I operate two businesses. I really do not want to back up the programs. I make regular backups of all my files. The programs can be installed easily. I would = like to back up my whole system (I have Windows XP) minus the programs and my files. Does that make sense to you?=20 I do have two hard drives (28 GB and 19 GB) plus the external hard drive with 37 GB. I sure have enough room to play with. I do have Ghost, but I can't figure that program out. Hopefully, I will hear from someone who is using Back4Win. Thank you again, Inge -----Original Message----- From: pchelpers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = [mailto:pchelpers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cy Halbach Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 11:01 PM To: pchelpers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pchelpers] Re: Help please Inge, I downloaded Back4Win and have not yet tried it. My point in responding = to your email is just to give you some idea of what I have chosen to do = after many years of experience. Having a second drive which is large enough = to hold a compressed copy of your entire C: drive I a real asset. It is = very nice to have such a copy if ever your Primary Hard Drive goes back and = you have to install a replacement. Depending on how large the backup is , = in case of a disaster you can restore your entire C:\ drive with all the programs etc. in less than an hour. I personally use Drive Image but = there are other programs such as Ghost etc. Te only disadvantage there might be is when you want to do a partial restore of your data or something else. The it would be an advantage to = have an additional backup of your data which could easily be restored without restoring the entire C:\drive. However if you are conscientious about backing up the drive prior to installing a new program that messes up = etc, then a half hour to one hour to restore or recover the C: drive is not a high price to pay. Just some thoughts, no doubt you will hear from some who currently = use Back4Win. Cy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 7/14/2003 =20 Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.