Malcolm and Others, I would not argue with your statement but I would qualify it and say that this is correct if you use the administrative courts i.e all the courts bar the common law court. This is because freehold not ownership arise through statute law. Use the common law to challenge threats to take your PROPERTY from you and the legal cheats will not be able to present their statutory so called evidence because it cannot be voiced and therefore is classed as hearsay evidence.Stand AT the common law court and state as a MAN that the defendant ( whoever is threatening to remove your property) is causing you harm by threatening to remove your property..Previously you should have sent a letter before claim to the people threatening you. Do not answer their correspondence because that places you, the MAN back to the state of your legal fiction which is dealt with in the admin courts.The letter before claim is described in the civil procedure rules under the Queen's bench division. The court is free to use. You can choose a JURY TRIAL or leave it to the 'judge' who has the same status as you a MAN. In other words you can sue him if he does not follow precedent. He is very unlikely to place himself in that position, unlike the judges in an admin court who are immune from being sued and therefore they can abuse the law as they often do. I would qualify my own statement above by stating that I am learning fro Karl Lenz's 162 videos. I have several letters before claim served. They have 21 days to respond before I can submit my claim to the court. So as yet I have not personally proved that it works. Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 09:40:50 +0100 From: m.d.porter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [patriots] Re: Fwd: Thanks for taking action! To: patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx I think you will find that I am correct in saying that none of us OWN our houses. We have the FREEHOLD not ownership! Malcolm From: Paul Talbot-Jenkins <fame_97@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "ECG group Mail,list" <patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, 16 May 2014, 23:33 Subject: [patriots] Fwd: Thanks for taking action! Please sign and support this petition, Land Registry is failing! Does your property belong to someone else? With best wishesPaulwww.force4justice.co.uk Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: "Diana S., via Avaaz.org" <avaaz@xxxxxxxxx> Date: 16 May 2014 21:26:04 BST To: fame_97@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Thanks for taking action! Thank you for signing my petition: David Cameron: Create mechanisms that allow proper investigation of Land Registry! Every single person who joins strengthens our call for action. Send the email below to friends and family, and post this link on your Facebook wall: Click to share this petition on Facebook Let's make change together, --- Here's the petition for forwarding to your friends: David Cameron: Create mechanisms that allow proper investigation of Land Registry The present situation leaves Land Registry able to be unchallenged when forcing victims of asset stripping into litigation that has only materialised because of Land Registrys own errors / mistakes. The Courts appear loathe to do anything except back the covering up of property and land theft and do nothing to change a system that has cheated tens if not hundreds of thousands of decent people. Expose the ease with which Land Registry escapes paying to compensate those they treat like used toilet paper who are usually the elderly, vulnerable and those without a voice http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/David_Cameron_Create_mechanisms_that_allow_proper_investigation_of_Land_Registry/?tZLhSab Sent by Avaaz on behalf of 's petition Avaaz.org is a 35-million-person global campaign network that works to ensure that the views and values of the world's people shape global decision-making. ("Avaaz" means "voice" or "song" in many languages.) Avaaz members live in every nation of the world; our team is spread across 18 countries on 6 continents and operates in 17 languages. Learn about some of Avaaz's biggest campaigns here, or follow us on Facebook or Twitter. This message was sent to fame_97@xxxxxxxxxxx. To change your email address, language, or other information, click here. Want to leave this list? Click here to unsubscribe.To contact Avaaz, please do not reply to this email. Instead, write to us at www.avaaz.org/en/contact or call us at +1-888-922-8229 (US).