RE: Enterprise Manager Restricted Use License

  • From: "Pete Sharman" <pete.sharman@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <courtney.llamas@xxxxxxxxxx>, <christopherdtaylor1994@xxxxxxxxx>, "'Bobby Curtis'" <curtisbl@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 01:29:35 +1000

Man, I take a day off from the list and you guys go crazy! ;)



This is your point of confusion – “we didn't point it out to them that this was
our EM server”. If LMS didn’t realize that, then their perspective is
perfectly reasonable (assuming that the license model is perfectly reasonable,
of course!). As others have pointed out, base licensing is free for the
OMS/OMR until you feel the need for HA. Of course, for some functionality
against TARGETS you will need specific pack licenses, but not for the OMS/OMR.



One other point – while you CAN use the same database for your RMAN catalog and
the OMR, I would not recommend that unless you’re short of hardware. The
usages of the two are completely different. Think of it in a similar manner
(though not to the same extent of course) as putting together an OLTP and a DW
database. You would tune them differently – exactly the same as you would for
the RMAN catalog and the OMR.



Pete



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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Courtney Llamas
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2015 11:39 PM
To: christopherdtaylor1994@xxxxxxxxx; Bobby Curtis
Cc: Niall Litchfield; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Enterprise Manager Restricted Use License



Chris –



I work in the EM team, and I’ve never heard of this… though I’m far removed
from sales! I’ve reached out to mgmt to confirm.





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From: Chris Taylor [mailto:christopherdtaylor1994@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 8:27 AM
To: Bobby Curtis
Cc: Niall Litchfield; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Enterprise Manager Restricted Use License



They didn't point it out specifically, but what they did do is include it in
the audit findings as being short the number of licenses required (along with
several other servers).

I think this was an error on their part - and maybe ours too that we didn't
point it out to them that this was our EM server.



Chris



On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Bobby Curtis <curtisbl@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:curtisbl@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:

Chris,



Are you positive that nothing other than OMR and/or RMAN catalog is running in
that database? It seems odd that Oracle LMS would care about the size of the
physical hardware with an OMR or OMS.



Bobby





On Apr 9, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Chris Taylor <christopherdtaylor1994@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:christopherdtaylor1994@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:



Niall - I totally agree - my client just happens to be running their EM
environment on a 16 cpu-core server and Oracle LMS flagged it as non-compliant
even though OMS is definitely the only thing running on it. They're saying we
need either an 16 proc license or 200 named users.



Chris





On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:

That's correct. I've yet to see a requirement for a huge EM DB server though.



On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Chris Taylor <christopherdtaylor1994@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:christopherdtaylor1994@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong - for the Enterprise Manager restricted use
license listed below, we can run a single-instance Oracle db on any size server
we desire correct? The server that houses the db and EM components doesn't
have to be a certain size, right?



Or is there some limitations to the number of CPUs etc?




Enterprise Manager Restricted-use License


* Enterprise Manager includes a restricted-use license of the Oracle
Database for use as the Oracle Management Repository only.

Additional database options or additional servers for disaster recovery require
separate licensing. Customers receive one single-instance database with the
Grid Control, or RMAN, repository. To protect the repository with Data Guard,
customers need to purchase a license for the standby site. To protect the
repository with Oracle Real Application Clusters, customers must license the
second node for the database, and both nodes require an Oracle Real Application
Clusters license.

* Use of Oracle WebLogic Server with Oracle Enterprise Manager is
restricted to the servlet functionality without clustering for the Oracle
Management Server (OMS).

https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11857_01/license.111/e11987/overview.htm







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