"Nor do I like any of the programs I *have to purchase* to get the ones I want. Just not willing to be blackmailed that way. Still the second assistant curmudgeon." -Cliff I can't say whether you are a curmudgeon or not, but your reasons on this issue don't suggest so in my opinion. Your reasons suggest that you are principled. We consumers would have a lot more power if we all were principled. Dan