[opendtv] Re: News: Reps. Barton, Stearns Offer Alternative DTV Bill

  • From: "John Willkie" <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:45:56 -0800

?? letter boxed and pillarboxed means that the encoder was set incorrectly.
And, I wonder why you not only use the term anamorphic, but -- assuming that
you mean that the sar doesn't match the dar, just why you think that should
be called anamorphic, since the term doesn't apply and isn't present in any
standard that I know of, at least in this context.

But, just what test equipment do you possess or have access to that permits
you to compare the sar to the dar?

You are not only using terms again that you don't understand, you are making
conclusions based on your lack of understanding of these terms, based on a
complete lack of datapoints.

For something to be seen letterboxed and pillarboxed on a 16:9 screen, it
can't be sdtv, unless some very unusual "production" (not distribution)
formats are used.

I've not only seen US, but I've looked at the bit streams.  It's 720 (for
the most part), and indeed I see it on a channel with 1080i content.  I've v
never seen them show anamorphic content, which would require stretching.

John Willkie

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Enviado el: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:13 AM
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Asunto: [opendtv] Re: News: Reps. Barton, Stearns Offer Alternative DTV Bill

Craig Birkmaier wrote:

> And they give every channel enough bits to deliver what we would
> call EDTV quality here. This is NOT TRUE for most sub channels
> in the U.S., which are pre-filtered to far less than NTSC
> resolution then trashed by compression artifacts.

Well, again, that's up to the stations.

Matter of fact, Craig and Tom, last night I watched the Ironman
competition of 2008, in Hawaii (big island). It was on the NBC O&O's
Universal Sports subchannel. It was shot wide screen, although
letterboxed + pillarpboxed rather than anamorphic. So I zoomed in, and
got a very decent, 16:9 image. It was good SDTV, as opposed to some very
grainy SDTV you get at times.

*And*. One of the ads for a future show was done in letterboxed
widescreen, anamorphic. Something like 2:35:1 aspect ratio. On
subchannel 4-3. So it looks like at least NBC is experimenting with
doing this right.

> The stations managers do not look at it the way you put it Bert.
> They generally believe that putting good general entertainment
> content on the sub-channels devalues their main channel.

Well, if that's the case, it makes no sense at all. MVPDs do not attract
customers with that mentality. They attract customers by offering an
attractive choice. Each station in a market is essentially a mini-MVPD,
and it seems inconceivable to me that they wouldn't try to attract as
many eyeballs as possible to their multiplex.

> The "other" reality is that we are very close to making a
> complete transition to HD in the U.S. for most high quality
> programming.

Yup. That's been the case now for a good many years.

Bert
 
 
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