[opendtv] Re: News: Northwest Station Pulls Signal In Retransmission Battle

  • From: "John Willkie" <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:56:01 -0800

Tom;

How many no-news local NBC affiliates have you ever heard of?  Last time I
checked, event the smallest NBC affiliates had local news.

John Willkie

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> On Behalf Of Tom Barry
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 4:27 PM
> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: News: Northwest Station Pulls Signal In
> Retransmission Battle
> 
> It still seems strange that a local no-news, minimal-local-content NBC
> affiliate could not be set up properly.  I wonder if that campus cable
> system is analog only or something, thus limiting the advantage of HD
> NBC cable.  Do students and campus residents use STB's?
> 
> Somehow I'll bet that local campus cable is the wild card in the
> equation killing the need for OTA.
> 
> - Tom
> 
> Craig Birkmaier wrote:
> >> WESH is in Daytona Beach, 79.2 miles distant according to Antennaweb
> >> (from U of F). It seems highly unlikely to me that any legal ruling
> >> would declare WESH to be the legitimate NBC affiliate to serve the
> >> Gainesville market.
> >
> >
> > True.
> >
> > By market definition Ocala is included in the Orlando/Daytona
> > Beach/Melbourne market. Gainesville is a separate market. The WESH
> > transmitter is about midway between Orlando and Daytona Beach; 79.2
> > miles from Gainesville sounds about right.
> >
> >>
> >> What I can't figure out is who is preventing some enterprising
> >> businessman from setting up an NBC affiliate in Gainesville. Especially
> >> when you take must-carry and retransmission consent into account, i.e.
> >> that the new affiliate would have access to this 93 percent usage Cox
> >> system, this Gainesville status quo just does not make sense to me.
> >
> >
> > The Gainesville market is somewhat unique. Channel 5 (PBS) is run by the
> > University and has been around forever. Channel 20, WCJB (ABC) was the
> > first commercial net to come to town. I don't know the exact year, but
> > they were still struggling to make a profit when I worked for them in
> > the late '70s. By the mid '80s they started making significant profits,
> > having the only local news in the market. WOGX came into the market as
> > an independent then became a Fox affiliate. They tried to compete in
> > local news and gave up. They were purchased by meredith Broadcasting a
> > few years ago and are now run out of Orlando as part of a triopoly. WGFL
> > came next as an independent and struggled to survive, even after they
> > started to carry UPN and WB shows. They have never offered local news,
> > although, after gaining the CBS affiliation a few years ago, they
> > started to carry the newscasts from the new Jacksonville CBS affiliate.
> >
> > Bottom line, there not much money in the proposition to operate an NBC
> > affiliate in this market.
> >
> >>
> >> And, if not a new affiliate, there are already several translators in
> >> Gainesville. Who is paying WESH, for example, not to use one of these
> >> translators for NBC and other content? Seems like illegal things going
> >> on.
> >
> >
> > There are frequencies available to add another station in Gainesville.
> > But the economics just don't add up.
> >
> >>
> >> Gainesville is primarily a college town, yes? Should be plenty of
> demand
> >> for FOTA TV in a college town, if it were available. Not every college
> >> student is a spoiled brat, I don't think.
> >
> >
> > Not really. The University has its own cable system for the dorms ( i
> > think they have some kind of relationship with Cox to get access to many
> > of the channels. And many of the off-campus apartments now include cable
> > and cable modems in the price of the apartment. This is not a "poor"
> > college town. Lot's of daddy's money around here. We have the highest
> > property taxes in the state; the highest gas prices in the state; and
> > intense competition with the students with daddy's credit cards to get a
> > seat in a decent restaurant.
> >
> > The only thing that these kids whimp out on is beer - Budwiser has 65%
> > market share.
> >
> > Regards
> > Craig
> >
> > P.S. the folks who can't afford cable mostly live in adjacent counties,
> > and work for the University for about $7 an hour.
> >
> >
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