[opendtv] Re: Hollywood may demand DRM for larger harddrives
- From: "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:54:28 -0700
yeah -- another disconnect from reality. Only the extremely poor or
avaracious will watch pirate content over paying for the rights to watch
professional content. Note that DVDs cost less than 2x the cost of in
person admission. When was the last time you ACTUALLY paid money to see an
independent film? Are you an IFC subscriber? I suspect you're just deeply
into cost-avoidance, and figure any content is better than paid content.
It's funny that you bring up the Hollings suggestion -- dead for more than
half a decade -- and call it a Disney move.
You are unlikely to ever get the ability to grant a MS DRM license.
While computers will continue to play unprotected content, my point was that
content can decide what platform is appropriate for being copied to: the
EXACT opposite of what you extracted, yet within what I said, since content
can decide not to care what the platform is.
John Willkie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 2:55 PM
Subject: [opendtv] Re: Hollywood may demand DRM for larger harddrives
>
>
> John Willkie wrote:
> > so, you know about hell, too?
> >
> A little bit. But only in the visions of the older Disney/Hollings
> proposals where all computers would be locked such that they could not
> play any unprotected content. This is still very unlikely to come about
> since the cost to competitive American computing would be immense and
> too many folks would squeal vigorously.
>
> > They may not demand, but they can determine the conditions for their
content
> > to be stored, once it's in DRM form. A harddrive lacking a certain key
> > could be easily prevented from storing content. Many companies have
been
> > working on this technology since the middle of the previous decade.
Much
> > hype, too. It's turned out to be a MS DRM world.
> >
> > And, Tom, you must have missed several recent announcements from MS and
> > Hollywierd. Work continues, and "Longhorn" will be called "Vista."
What do
> > you think their talking about viewing?
> >
> The Trusted Computing platforms, or whatever they will be called next,
> will still probably allowed unprotected media to play. And if the
> burden to play protected media is too large then people will probably
> avoid it. And frankly, if only certain sub-systems and media are
> protected then I could probably live with that. But I don't expect
> Hollywood to accept reasonable compromises yet. For instance, my
> experiences trying to get fully licensed phone-home MS-DRM were
> completely unworkable with the couple of discs I bought.
>
> Meanwhile, there is a hidden assumption that nobody would have any media
> to play if Hollywood was not satisfied. I expect the amateur and
> independent movie makers and the pirates all will continue to supply
> whatever the big Hollywood concerns withhold.
>
> - Tom
>
>
> > John Willkie
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:50 AM
> > Subject: [opendtv] Re: Hollywood may demand DRM for larger harddrives
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>Jeroen Stessen wrote:
> >> >>Hollywood may demand DRM for larger harddrives - analyst
> >>
> >>People in Hell want ice water. Hollywood is in no position to "demand"
> >>this.
> >>
> >>- Tom
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hello,
> >>>
> >>>See: http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050720_191403.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hollywood may demand DRM for larger harddrives - analyst
> >>>>By Scott Fulton
> >>>>July 20, 2005 - 19:14 EST
> >>>>(...)
> >>>>The moment you become capable of reading and writing movies and
> >>>>transporting that content across borders, Cai said, "Hollywood can
> >>>>get really concerned. What if you can carry like 20 movies with you
> >>>>all the time, and they can't control the content any more?" It's the
> >>>>possible crossing of geographic boundaries that's the problem, Cai
> >>>>said - a problem that wouldn't crop up if the media device were made
> >>>>to sit on your desktop at home, no matter how small it becomes.
> >>>>(...)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Greetings,
> >>>-- Jeroen
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
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