Some are complaining that we need those 5th gen receivers now and bringing up old 8-VSB performance data, recently a big NO NO. In answer to CKNA on AVSForum dirk1843 puts it best.... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=c1d8d3905cfcbb1352091a337d479339&threadid=496065 "I think most of the problem, is as CKNA said, poor antenna install or wrong type for area." What can I say, now I understand, 8-VSB was designed for the right type of area and some of us just happen to live in a "wrong type of area". Now it all makes sense. Bob Miller ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.