I guess Tijuanenses have a different view of the value of these devices. One possible canard; stuff is sent to Tijuanans, export of retail items is common from New York. And, anecdotes prove little. John Willkie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Schubin" <tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:29 AM Subject: [opendtv] Re: 20050627 Mark's Monday Memo > I can't speak for Mexico. In New York, at J&R, a stack of about 50 of > them dwindled to just a few while I was shopping. > > TTFN, > Mark > > > John Willkie wrote: > > >great idea mark, but nothing to be gained, since one can also find dead dogs > >of the animate kind listed for sale on multiple internet sites as well. > > > >You have to pay people $5 in Tijuana to take one of those 5" inch sets. > >I've seen one in a local video store that has been for sale -- the same > >unit, not merely the same model -- for more than a year. The shop owner an > >I joke about it. However, the large Wegas 35 and up are flying off the > >shelves. Tijuana. Baja California. Mexico: the third world. > > > >I had chance to visit two Wal-Marts in the last 2 weeks, and I scoured the > >media and electonics department. Saw the $547 Sanyo 16:9 set; $300 premium > >over the NTSC equivalent. Saw $11 CD players. Didn't see a single TV set > >under 20 inches. If these things aren't for sale at Wal-Mart, the only > >lower segment of the market is second-hand shops. > > > >Three weeks ago, I took a lesiurely stroll through the open air Tijuana > >"flea market/swap meet." I can there buy virtually any or every unwired > >remote control ever made for any electonic device. Some, I'm sure, even > >work. I saw new and used tv sets ranging from20 to 37 inches or so. Not a > >single 5" set. I asked one guy who could manage English where I could find > >one. He told me maybe a segunda -- second hand store -- but that they were > >junk. I could get a working set for $20. I looked through the segundas in > >that area. I could find 10 year old boom boxes, Nakamichi cassette > >recorders, 20-40 inch tv sets. Didn't see a single 5" one or smaller. > > > >I have seen a 5 inch set somewhere in Tijuana in the last year. It was > >smashed up in pieces. Maybe it was smashed up because it didn't work. > > > >Maybe you can see these things listed on the Internet; maybe they are > >popular in your part of the isle of Manhattan. But, the places I've looked > >in Southern and Northern California, Nevada and Mexico, there is little or > >no interest in these meager receivers. > > > >Perhaps they're popular in China? India? In North America, it seemed like > >a lark -- a cheap, short, fad. How extensive is the Jeep TV brand? Do you > >think it's more likely this is a grey market source for TVs that were once > >offered as a spliff for bying a cheap jeep? Kinda funny, when some SUVs > >have DVD players and -- unbelieveable -- color TVs. > > > >Just yesterday, I saw images from an LA TV station on a 2" color set. It's > >one of the five or four that I've seen since 1989; and I travel via transit > >(bus, trolley and rail) quite often, and always on the lookout for people > >using portable tvs. It was in the hands of a TV chief engineer. We spent > >more time listening to a single song on satellite radio than we spent > >watching his station on that set. > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Mark Schubin" <tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 6:59 AM > >Subject: [opendtv] Re: 20050627 Mark's Monday Memo > > > > > > > > > >>I recommend that you Google "5-inch TV," and see what comes up. One of > >>the over 300,000 hits is a page listing a dozen Chinese manufacturers of > >>different models of CRT-based TVs. They're sold in department stores, > >>auto supply stores, etc. They cost about $20. One is sold under the > >>Jeep brand. > >> > >>As for the 2-to-3-inch LCD models to which you seem to refer, CEA > >>reported sales to U.S. dealers in 1999, alone, of 832,000 units of LCD > >>TVs. I picked 1999 because CEA doesn't separate LCD TVs by screen size > >>and that year was before significant sales of larger models. > >> > >>TTFN, > >>Mark > >> > >> > >>John Willkie wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>hundreds, strewn across the country, with a screen size of 2 inches or > >>> > >>> > >so. > > > > > >>>John Willkie > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Mark Schubin" <tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:08 AM > >>>Subject: [opendtv] Re: 20050627 Mark's Monday Memo > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Indeed. And there are quite a few battery-powered analog TVs. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > >> > >>- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > >> > >> > >FreeLists.org > > > > > >>- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > >> > >> > >unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > > >- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > > >- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.