[opendtv] Re: 20050627 Mark's Monday Memo

  • From: "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:17:56 -0700

I guess Tijuanenses have a different view of the value of these devices. One
possible canard; stuff is sent to Tijuanans, export of retail items is
common from New York.  And, anecdotes prove little.

John Willkie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Schubin" <tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:29 AM
Subject: [opendtv] Re: 20050627 Mark's Monday Memo


> I can't speak for Mexico.  In New York, at J&R, a stack of about 50 of
> them dwindled to just a few while I was shopping.
>
> TTFN,
> Mark
>
>
> John Willkie wrote:
>
> >great idea mark, but nothing to be gained, since one can also find dead
dogs
> >of the animate kind listed for sale on multiple internet sites as well.
> >
> >You have to pay people $5 in Tijuana to take one of those 5" inch sets.
> >I've seen one in a local video store that has been for sale -- the same
> >unit, not merely the same model -- for more than a year.  The shop owner
an
> >I joke about it.  However, the large Wegas 35 and up are flying off the
> >shelves.  Tijuana.  Baja California.  Mexico: the third world.
> >
> >I had chance to visit two Wal-Marts in the last 2 weeks, and I scoured
the
> >media and electonics department.  Saw the $547 Sanyo 16:9 set; $300
premium
> >over the NTSC equivalent.  Saw $11 CD players.  Didn't see a single TV
set
> >under 20 inches.  If these things aren't for sale at Wal-Mart, the only
> >lower segment of the market is second-hand shops.
> >
> >Three weeks ago, I took a lesiurely stroll through the open air Tijuana
> >"flea market/swap meet."  I can there buy virtually any or every unwired
> >remote control ever made for any electonic device. Some, I'm sure, even
> >work.  I saw new and used tv sets ranging from20 to 37 inches or so.  Not
a
> >single 5" set.  I asked one guy who could manage English where I could
find
> >one.  He told me maybe a segunda -- second hand store -- but that they
were
> >junk.  I could get a working set for $20.  I looked through the segundas
in
> >that area.  I could find 10 year old boom boxes, Nakamichi cassette
> >recorders, 20-40 inch tv sets.  Didn't see a single 5" one or smaller.
> >
> >I have seen a 5 inch set somewhere in Tijuana in the last year.  It was
> >smashed up in pieces.  Maybe it was smashed up because it didn't work.
> >
> >Maybe you can see these things listed on the Internet; maybe they are
> >popular in your part of the isle of Manhattan.  But, the places I've
looked
> >in Southern and Northern California, Nevada and Mexico, there is little
or
> >no interest in these meager receivers.
> >
> >Perhaps they're popular in China?  India?  In North America, it seemed
like
> >a lark -- a cheap, short, fad.  How extensive is the Jeep TV brand?  Do
you
> >think it's more likely this is a grey market source for TVs that were
once
> >offered as a spliff for bying a cheap jeep?  Kinda funny, when some SUVs
> >have DVD players and -- unbelieveable -- color TVs.
> >
> >Just yesterday, I saw images from an LA TV station on a 2" color set.
It's
> >one of the five or four that I've seen since 1989; and I travel via
transit
> >(bus, trolley and rail) quite often, and always on the lookout for people
> >using portable tvs.  It was in the hands of a TV chief engineer.  We
spent
> >more time listening to a single song on satellite radio than we spent
> >watching his station on that set.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Mark Schubin" <tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 6:59 AM
> >Subject: [opendtv] Re: 20050627 Mark's Monday Memo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>I recommend that you Google "5-inch TV," and see what comes up.  One of
> >>the over 300,000 hits is a page listing a dozen Chinese manufacturers of
> >>different models of CRT-based TVs.  They're sold in department stores,
> >>auto supply stores, etc.  They cost about $20.  One is sold under the
> >>Jeep brand.
> >>
> >>As for the 2-to-3-inch LCD models to which you seem to refer, CEA
> >>reported sales to U.S. dealers in 1999, alone, of 832,000 units of LCD
> >>TVs.  I picked 1999 because CEA doesn't separate LCD TVs by screen size
> >>and that year was before significant sales of larger models.
> >>
> >>TTFN,
> >>Mark
> >>
> >>
> >>John Willkie wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>hundreds, strewn across the country, with a screen size of 2 inches or
> >>>
> >>>
> >so.
> >
> >
> >>>John Willkie
> >>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>From: "Mark Schubin" <tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:08 AM
> >>>Subject: [opendtv] Re: 20050627 Mark's Monday Memo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Indeed.  And there are quite a few battery-powered analog TVs.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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