Huw, In Dolphin cursor mode, you can use Supernova's search facility. F3 allows you to type the text string you want to find, pressing enter on this finds the first occurrence; then f2 and f4 search back or forward respectively for subsequent occurrences. You can also highlight text in Dolphin's cursor mode by pressing the shift key and using the arrow keys. You can then use Windows copy (control-c) and paste (control-v) in the normal way to copy and paste the highlighted text. Hope this helps. Regards, Ian. -----Original Message----- From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Huw Evans Sent: 26 July 2014 11:41 To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ntnm] Re: The survey Richard, For some reason ctrl plus find doesn't work with html for me. I've just tried with the Economist and while while I can find 'windmills' easily in text, I cannot get any response in html... In navigating words or phrases, I get frustrated when told 'no more words' at the end of a line in html. Incidentaly, I should also like to be able to bookmark and copy extracts as in the old days....I realise that I'm hard to please but I always think its worth looking for possible improvements. All suggestions greatly appreciated, Best wishes, Huw. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Godfrey-McKay Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 10:19 AM To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ntnm] Re: The survey Huw, you should be able to search for text when reading an HTML file. IN Internet Explorer, press control +f to show the find box. To find the next occurrence press f3. You should also be able to use the normal navigation key strokes, e.g. control +right or left arrow to move a word at a time, or just cursor through uncertain text you wish to examine more closely. Does that help? Richard Richard Godfrey-McKay Telephone: 01738-445 880 Mobile: 07791 452 593 -----Original Message----- From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Huw Evans Sent: 26 July 2014 09:34 To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ntnm] Re: The survey Richard, Iuse dolphin's supernova, relying on voice only. II also appreciate html's navigability in being able to go easily to the next or previous items as well as the availability of the contents; its a good way to get through a short magazine quickly. My problem arises if I'm trying to extract the nuances from a difficult paragraph containing, say foreign names.... Because my hearing is deteriorating, I need to go back over the odd phrase and this is easier if I use the text version, which also enables me to search and get quickly to whatever I'm looking for. I suspect we need both versions. Hope this makes sense. Best wishes, Huw. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Godfrey-McKay Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 7:35 PM To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ntnm] Re: The survey Huw, Which screenreader are you using? Certainly html is my preferred option with JAWS, simply because of its navigability. Richard Richard Godfrey-McKay Telephone: 01738-445 880 Mobile: 07791 452 593 -----Original Message----- From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Huw Evans Sent: 25 July 2014 18:01 To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ntnm] Re: The survey Derek and List, WHILE your comment is valid, it does seem unusually defeatist. I believe we should continue pressing for a service which meets our needs - (or someone will decide decide that we will be leaner and fitter by giving up cake altogether) . While NOT EXACTLY HOLDING MY BREATH, I'M JUST WAITING TO SEE HOU OUR QUESTIONNAIR RESPONSES ARE INTERPRETED AND WHAT ACTION (IF ANY) FOLLOWS. READING HAS BECOME MORE TEDIOUS AND INEFFICIENT AND CONSEQUENTLY less productive. I cannot understand why HTML is recommended by rnibsollutions and I wonder whether sighted rreaders grasp my particular problem. As my screenreader only reads one line at a time, it can sometimes be difficult to understand a complicated paragraph, especially as my hearing is deteriorating and I may wish to check specific words. (Is this a common problem or is my screenreader particularly inefficient?) Best wishes, Huw. -----Original Message----- From: Derek Hornby Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:30 PM To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ntnm] Re: The survey Well while I don't like the changes, lets not forget RNIB could have closed down the service. So isn't half a cake better than no cake! Derek -----Original Message----- From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Badger Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:32 AM To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ntnm] Re: The survey well I'm flatout out not happy about the take over, the changes, the way it's been handled and I'm pretty sure I won't be renewing my subscription next year. Well done RNIB. Oh and rather than just have us fill out a survey, why not just read the hundreds, if not thousands of complaints, read this list and fix the massive mess you made. it's such a shame to see such a useful and well loved service be lost but I'll bet in a few years, this won't exist anymore. -----Original Message----- From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Roche Sent: 23 July 2014 11:47 To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ntnm] Re: The survey Gareth, I've been getting message's on this list but no weekly newsletters!! And haven't heard anything about the survey since I sent mine back!! Hope you get this message Dan -----Original Message----- From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gareth Williams Sent: 23 July 2014 11:44 To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ntnm] The survey Hi all It is now a month since some of us completed the survey. I have seen no resulting response from NIB. Nor are we getting weekly updates any more. Is this in the hope that the list will die from inertia? If so, it is working very well, as the list is now very quiet. If this is because everyone is now happy with the product this would be great, but I would be surprised were this to be the case. I have to say that some messages, on this and other lists, are not reaching me for some reason, so if I have missed any response then I apologise. 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