[nas-2000] Re: restart
- From: philipp Wehrheim <flipstar@xxxxxxx>
- To: nas-2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 20:47:00 +0200
By the way its fun with you guys!!!
Think the next tinky fw will be very very good!
philipp Wehrheim schrieb:
>
> Dennis Suchomsky schrieb:
>>> Yes, you are. Helps nothing.
>>>
>> maybe gpl-violations.org helps see this:
>> How can I help gpl-violations.org ?
>>
>> Firstly by not reacting to a technical GPL violation in an extreme
>> fashion. Secondly by checking the violation is indeed a violation.
> thats exactly the point I think they created there on driver
> for the controller cpu gpio etc etc
>
> But if they use the kernel unchanged (in the vanilla fashon)
> I guess its ok because you cant force them to put there driver
> unter the glp like you cant force ati/nvidia to release
> the sources ... as long as they did't build it on top of
> gpl code
>
>> Join the mailing lists, discuss issues there first. Be polite but firm
>> when dealing with companies and remember that the goal is to ensure a
>> company stops violating the GPL and does not violate it again, rather
>> than to leave a smoking crater at the location of their HQ... at least
>> not on the first offence.
>>
>> Keep records of conversations with companies. Co-ordinate with others. A
>> company faced with eight different stories will find it hard to deal
>> with. A company faced with a single accurate information source can
>> respond better.
>>
>> Beware the "public shaming" bomb. It's easy to let off, but very hard to
>> defuse if you made a mistake or the issue turned out to be minor and is
>> rapidly resolved. In addition companies may become very defensive in
>> such cases and decide to "tough it out". We want to build bridges and
>> giving a company no way to avoid losing face hinders that, especially in
>> certain cultures.
>>
>> What can I do if I encounter a GPL violation?
>>
>> The gpl-violations.org project keeps track of reported GPL violations in
>> its internal request tracking system. If you want to report an alleged
>> violation, please write to license-violation@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, and
>> make sure to ``enable --verbose mode'', i.e. include as much details as
>> possible.
>>
>> taken from http://gpl-violations.org/faq/violation-faq.html
>>
>>> Am 16.05.2007 20:19 Uhr schrieb "Julius Loman" unter <lomo@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 08:05:32PM +0200, philipp Wehrheim
>>>> <flipstar@xxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> right I think they produce the hardware as well
>>>> yes, of course they do
>>>> i spoke to the sales guy and he told me, they normally don't give
>>>> sources except to partners.
>>>>
>>>> i'm just curious - linux kernel is gpl-2 license which implies that
>>>> anyone who is using or extending the kernel must make the modification
>>>> public. am i correct ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Julius Loman schrieb:
>>>>>> On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 07:20:48PM +0200, Aurel <massman@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> One question: have you got any contact with raidsonic. Don't you
>>>>>>> think they would be interrested in improving their NAS with the
>>>>>>> open source
>>>>>>> community. On the other hand we can get more info.
>>>>>>> I think that we should enter in contact and try this.
>>>>>>> I have the mail of the Raidsonic Product Manager if you want Flip.
>>>>>> I don't think raidsonic makes this firmware. check the firmware to the
>>>>>> another device posted few days ago - it's almost the same and
>>>>>> completely
>>>>>> another vendor and visual. I thnik the firmware creator is storlink.
>>>>>>> Regards !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Selon philipp Wehrheim <flipstar@xxxxxxx>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://raidsonic.de/de/pages/service/driver.php
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dennis Suchomsky schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>> The tinky cgi scripts are shell-script
>>>>>>>>>> but the orig. cgi files used by the firmware
>>>>>>>>>> are compiled C-progs.
>>>>>>>>> And where are the sources?
>>>>>>>>> thx&bye
>>>>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 16.05.2007 um 10:42 schrieb flipstar@xxxxxxx:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>>>>>> # tinky
>>>>>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>>>>>> # new tinky layout
>>>>>>>>>>>> # directory structur
>>>>>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>>>>>> /system/overlay/tinky
>>>>>>>>>>>> apps
>>>>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>>>>> libs
>>>>>>>>>>>> modules
>>>>>>>>>>>> rc.d
>>>>>>>>>>>> bin
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> looks good its clear what is stored in the folders.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> /system/overlay/tinky
>>>>>>>>>>>> The tinky dir is for configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>> files etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> - savedata.conf
>>>>>>>>>>>> - tinky.conf (?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Question:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we want a tinky.conf (guess yes)
>>>>>>>>>>>> we could give the user the possiblilty to
>>>>>>>>>>>> define special variables like:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> USE_ENCYPTED_SWAP=yes
>>>>>>>>>>>> USE_HD_CRYPT=YES
>>>>>>>>>>>> USE_HD_CRYPT_KEY="/<usb-stick>/tinky.key"
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes a tinky config would be good I think.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> just to give an example
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Note:
>>>>>>>>>>>> We should really stop using seperate start and
>>>>>>>>>>>> stop scripts and do it the common way with
>>>>>>>>>>>> a start and a stop funktion in one file
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 01_example.sh
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> start() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>> stop() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> defenitly
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> /system/overlay/bin
>>>>>>>>>>>> for all the installed bins
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Question:
>>>>>>>>>>>> does a seperate bin dir for tinky scripts make sense
>>>>>>>>>>>> to get a cleaner layout???
>>>>>>>>>>> don't think so just name the scripts s.t with tinky that they
>>>>>>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>>>>>> easy to find
>>>>>>>>>>> sorry this is all I got to say right now Im not too deep into
>>>>>>>>>>> your work
>>>>>>>>>>> to make more comment but Im sure I will be soon ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To build a package I need to X-compile it right? Because i having
>>>>>>>>>>> troubles setting up the toolchain on my gentoo box perhaps you
>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>> sample toolchain for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Where can i find the sources for the cgi scripts the
>>>>>>>>>>> webinterface is
>>>>>>>>>>> using? I think there is some work needed too and i would like to
>>>>>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>>>>>> stuff like web interface fot ctorrent, top, netstat etc...
>>>>>>>>>>> hmm ok thats it right now
>>>>>>>>>>> bye
>>>>>>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Aurel
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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