[mswindowsxp] Re: Authorizations
- From: Matt Fowler <mfowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: mswindowsxp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:59:39 -0600
I agree with your rave about "Deep Freeze". We use it as well in our
college labs. However, this is not a solution for our Faculty and Staff
workstations that are running software requiring higher level rights than
user level. The solution for us is still to add them to "power user" status
- unfortunately!
At 11:50 PM 1/14/04 -0500, you wrote:
>We have had the same problem with user rights. I work at a college with many
>programming classes. You gotta love Microsoft - VS.Net requires Debugger
>User, but modules in VB & C++ require Power User - and neither will work
>with the other's rights. So we had to go to admin in labs that run both.
>
>But we found a great solution: Hyper Technologies (recently merged with
>Faronics) "Deep Freeze". Software level protection, and everything goes back
>to original condition after a reboot. It allows saving to mounted drives if
>you're using NTFS. This allows for DAT updates, document saving, etc.
>
>It has an enterprise management console to thaw & refreeze the systems for
>maintenance, and we have set it up with WOL & SUS for automatic Windows &
>DAT updates when in a thawed state.
>
>We've used it for about a year now, and have had no problems. I repeat -
>none!
>
>We used Centurion hardware locks in the past, but the Deep Freeze is more
>flexible and a lot cheaper. We spent < $15.00 per workstation when
>purchasing 500 licenses.
>
>Here's their web address: http://www.faronics.com/main.asp
>
>I don't rave about much, but this software has changed my life. And the
>users are happy because everything always works.
>
>Best of luck.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mswindowsxp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:mswindowsxp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jim Betz
>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:08 PM
>To: mswindowsxp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [mswindowsxp] Re: Authorizations
>
> This isn't a problem with getting it to install. The install
>requires Admin authority. I don't have a problem with that. What
>I need is for the application to run correctly for a user that is
>a Limited User. The user(s) in this case are Secretaries - in a
>small office without a full time 'computer guru' present. So
>there is always at least one person in the office who thinks
>they are good enough to 'try something' ... and that results in
>chaos about 10% of the time. If they didn't have Admin rights
>then the amount of damage they can do is considerably reduced
>and that is what I want.
>
> I'm confused by the suggestion to use compatibility mode.
>This software runs correctly as an XP application without
>compatibility mode. But it fails to run if the user is a
>Limited user because it is opening a file in Documents and Settings,
>All Users - for update - and XP says "nope, no you don't". I know,
>I know - I've asked why this file needs to be there and they
>won't even talk about that!
> Are you saying that if the application is switched to run in
>compatibility mode that it won't fail in this way?
>
> Yes, I have put the users into Admin authority as a bypass. But
>that doesn't make it something I want to do! What I want to do is
>to get the application developers off there fat *sse* and work on
>a real solution. But in order to do that I need to convince them
>that they can do what they want to do.
>
> So - again - any one out there who has actually written a XP
>enabled application that dealt with this kind of stuff - please
>contact me directly (offline). Thanks.
>
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