Having used both for a number of boilers, I wouldn't bother with propane for anything over (say) a Gauge 1 boiler. Too much foolin' around on a large job. With oxy/acet you can localise the heat much more effectively. Copper ain't as easy to burn out as a lot of people think - especially if your plates are thick enough to comply with AMBSC code, the main danger is the tube ends. Terry, I agree with you, propane is fine for little jobs, but if you get serious, then oxy/acet is the only way to go. I think the main problem in Old Blighty is a plethora of regulations designed to keep oxy/acety equipment out of the hands of all but probably licensed welders. There are three oxy/acet sets within 200 yards of my house, that is counting my own, but there may be more. All three of these torch sets are owned by individuals like meself, but all of us have had experience with them in industrial settings. What is happening in Great Britain is probably more of what is beginning to happen in our countries, creeping gumment regulations implemented by wide eyed over zealous bureaucrats who have to answer to no one. Jesse MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.