Tony, I, personally, don't understand why you don't just make your own. They are really easy to make. There is nothing hard about it at all. All you need is the following; - oxy-acetylene torch (use the cutting torch as the large quantity of small flames is the best heat source) - Copper tube (for both barrel and end plates, flues, and Galloway tubes if required) - Gun metal / Phosphor bronze for bushes - steel for endplate former - Silver solder (2 grades) -- 245 (45% silver) for bushes and lues/tubes: -- 115 (15% silver) for attaching your end plates. - Sulphuric acid (battery acid) for pickle bath. I add 1L of acid to 10L water, and find this OK if I get it on my hands (no burns) - 20L plastic bucket for pickle bath - Flux (for the 245 silversolder) - Hand tools That's about it........ Of the top of my head I can"t think of anything else..... The first thing to do when deciding to build a boiler is to decide your fuel.... As that will often determine the style of boiler that you build. Have a look in Harris's book at the different styles/configurations of boilers, and then decide how big you want it. Then start making it..... It's that easy. I would seriously recommend that you get hold of a copy of the Aussie copper boiler code, as this will solve all your thickness and stay sizing/spacing issues. Something to note though, is that the Aussie code tends to use much thicker materials than required, as it is designed to protect EVERYONE from the idiot boiler builder. Cheers, Phill. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Wells" <oaksfield@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 3:08 AM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Steam engine RPM? > It is not verbotten at all Al, I just lack the cheek to ask! I do have that > nice long length of seemless copper tubing to trade if anyone is interested > however .... Is there so much to boiler making though ??? In my naiveity, I > would have thought that at the low pressures involved a bit of silver solder > would go a long way, and I have plenty of that too! > > Tony. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allen Messer" <al_messer@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 7:58 PM > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Steam engine RPM? > > > > Glad to help out as I don't want you blowing yourself > > sky high with an improperly made steam boiler! If > > that happened, with whom would I discuss politics? > > > > Have you though of posting a query on the Modeleng > > list to see if any of our listees would build you a > > boiler, or is this verboten? > > > > Al > > > > --- Tony Wells <oaksfield@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> A belated thanks for this "headzup" (???) Al! > >> > >> Tony. > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Allen Messer" <al_messer@xxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 5:11 PM > >> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Steam engine RPM? > >> > >> > >> > Tony, if you are thinking of building your own > >> boiler, > >> > run, don't walk, to your nearest agent for Tee > >> > Publications and buy yerself a copy of K. N. > >> Harris' > >> > book "Model Boilers & Boilermaking" and if you > >> want it > >> > to look scale, there are several vendors of model > >> > steam fittings in Britain that are excellent. > >> > > >> > Al Messer > >> > >> > >> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > >> > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email > >> to, > >> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > >> "unsubscribe" in the subject line. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > > http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > > line. > > > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line. > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.