Tony, 439.50 Pounds Sterling plus VAT will buy you a very nice one from Stuart Models. Al Messer --- Terry Lane <tel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Having used both for a number of boilers, I wouldn't > bother with propane for > anything over (say) a Gauge 1 boiler. Too much > foolin' around on a large > job. With oxy/acet you can localise the heat much > more effectively. Copper > ain't as easy to burn out as a lot of people think - > especially if your > plates are thick enough to comply with AMBSC code, > the main danger is the > tube ends. > > > > Whilst I concur with the majority of Phil's > message, I will add a couple > of > > points. > > > > Propane is much easier to use than oxy acetylene, > and the latter isnt easy > > to obtain in the UK, without complying with many > rules. > > With propane,there is minimal risk of burning > through plates etc, which > one > > can do with oxy. > > > > Easyflo, is the best general purpose silver solder > and the most widely > > available over here. > > > > Although steel is the best material for formers, > one can use hardwood. > > However, Blackgates and Reeves both offer kits > with the end plates already > > flanged. The saving in time makes them worthwhile. > > > > Alan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Phill Smith" <steam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 5:10 AM > > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Steam engine RPM? > > > > > > Tony, > > > > I, personally, don't understand why you don't just > make your own. They are > > really easy to make. There is nothing hard about > it at all. > > > > All you need is the following; > > > > - oxy-acetylene torch (use the cutting torch as > the large quantity of > small > > flames is the best heat source) > > - Copper tube (for both barrel and end plates, > flues, and Galloway tubes > if > > required) > > - Gun metal / Phosphor bronze for bushes > > - steel for endplate former > > - Silver solder (2 grades) -- 245 (45% silver) for > bushes and > > lues/tubes: -- 115 (15% silver) for attaching > your end plates. > > - Sulphuric acid (battery acid) for pickle bath. I > add 1L of acid to 10L > > water, and find this OK if I get it on my hands > (no burns) > > - 20L plastic bucket for pickle bath > > - Flux (for the 245 silversolder) > > - Hand tools > > > > That's about it........ Of the top of my head I > can"t think of anything > > else..... > > > > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email > to, > > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > "unsubscribe" in the subject > line. > > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email > to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > "unsubscribe" in the subject line. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.