[macvoiceover] Re: Mountain lion voiceover speculation
- From: Olivia Norman <olivianorman@xxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:03:27 -0800
Hi Ricardo,
I'm not at all familiar with Jaws at this point, haven't used it since 2007.
Could you tell me a little more about what tandem does?
I agree with everyone else about the constant busy bug in safari as well as the
iCloud site.
Olivia
,
On Feb 17, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> lol,
>
> Yeah. These are all bugs that have gone, come back, and has left since
> updating to Lion. Most I admit are just minor annoyances one just deals with
> when using a computer but, the busy thing in Safari, thats just a bad
> situation for a lot of people including myself. And I believe it can be
> fixed since google chrome has no busy problem at all. I've heard that the
> problem is with Safari not VO. Either which way, if no new feature was
> added, and all they did was refine the features added in Lion, and squash the
> busy bug, I would be reasonably happy.
>
> Ricardo Walker
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> On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Laura wrote:
>
>> I absolutely second the bug quashing. I'm fortunate enough not to have all
>> the ones you mention, but those I do have are frustrating enough. The busy
>> in Safari, in particular, is really making Lion less enjoyable to use,
>> despite many of the other really good features. And I was really
>> disappointed in the iCloud site.
>>
>> I'd also love to see Voiceover work more effectively with iWorks, and Pages
>> especially. It does fine for most individual tasks, but for collaborative
>> work, I've got to go back to Windows, and I can't see that changing until
>> they get Voiceover to do a better job with track changes and comments. And
>> on a similar theme, I'd like a few more customisation options. Something not
>> unlike the options in JAWS, where it can react differently depending on the
>> text attributes it encounters. At the moment, having every single text
>> change spoken is far too much information, but just playing the same sound
>> for all changes sometimes isn't enough. In fact, I'd welcome more
>> customisation across the board, like being able to toggle individual VO
>> sounds on and off, rather than it being an all or nothing deal.
>>
>> Oh, and if single key navigation could turn off automatically when you enter
>> a form field, I think that would be a really big improvement. It was a
>> feature I thought I'd love in Lion, and I don't use it at all. Some of that
>> is that the rest of VO's functionality makes it much less necessary than it
>> was with JAWS, but some of it is that I don't want to go back to what's
>> really just the equivalent of the old JAWS version of forms mode.
>>
>> On 17 Feb 2012, at 00:11, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I honestly hope they spend time working out the Voiceover bugs introduced
>>> in Lion. Like the random pitch change with the premium voices, the endless
>>> busy in Safari, Voiceover taking a million years to come on at start up, or
>>> the reading of those phantom windows on start up. As far as features, I
>>> would like to see an OCR feature like found on a couple of windows screen
>>> readers. I think this will become standard on all major screen readers. I
>>> would also like to see Apple clean up the iCloud site. Its terrible from
>>> an accessibility stand point. I would really like to see them add a remote
>>> feature for us to help other Mac users like tandem in Jaws. This would be
>>> a big help to IT folks, and those just willing to help others trouble shoot
>>> on the Mac.
>>>
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>
>>> On Feb 16, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Ashley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> With the release of mac os 10.8 (mountain lion) nearing, what do you guys
>>>> think we'll see in voiceover "4.0", the next version of Vo that will be
>>>> included in this OS?
>>>> ash
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