[macvoiceover] Re: Mountain lion voiceover speculation
- From: Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:50:39 -0700
Yes, I've tried Chrome and like it a lot too! It loads pages very fast!
Thanks,
Russell
On 2012-02-18, at 7:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've thought about doing this a few times. Although annoying, I don't think
> I had the problem quite as bad as you did. I have pretty much switched over
> to google chrome for my web browsing needs. I only use Safari for specific
> tasks. For example, If reading articles online, I will use Safari so I can
> use the article reader mode. Or, if I know I'm going to be visiting a site
> with a lot of tables. Chrome is pretty good though. And no busies. lol.
>
> Ricardo Walker
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> On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:
>
>> Hi Ricardo,
>>
>> I was so frustrated by the Safari busy problem I was seriously considering
>> ditching my iMac for a Windows machine. Then, over the Christmas break, I
>> did a clean install of Lion... totally erased my hard drive and re-installed
>> Lion, and my Safari busy problem is 95% better! It's once again a pleasure
>> to use my Mac. Might be worth a shot.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Russell
>> On 2012-02-17, at 8:03 PM, Olivia Norman wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ricardo,
>>> I'm not at all familiar with Jaws at this point, haven't used it since
>>> 2007. Could you tell me a little more about what tandem does?
>>> I agree with everyone else about the constant busy bug in safari as well as
>>> the iCloud site.
>>> Olivia
>>> ,
>>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>> lol,
>>>>
>>>> Yeah. These are all bugs that have gone, come back, and has left since
>>>> updating to Lion. Most I admit are just minor annoyances one just deals
>>>> with when using a computer but, the busy thing in Safari, thats just a bad
>>>> situation for a lot of people including myself. And I believe it can be
>>>> fixed since google chrome has no busy problem at all. I've heard that the
>>>> problem is with Safari not VO. Either which way, if no new feature was
>>>> added, and all they did was refine the features added in Lion, and squash
>>>> the busy bug, I would be reasonably happy.
>>>>
>>>> Ricardo Walker
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>>>>
>>>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Laura wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I absolutely second the bug quashing. I'm fortunate enough not to have
>>>>> all the ones you mention, but those I do have are frustrating enough. The
>>>>> busy in Safari, in particular, is really making Lion less enjoyable to
>>>>> use, despite many of the other really good features. And I was really
>>>>> disappointed in the iCloud site.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd also love to see Voiceover work more effectively with iWorks, and
>>>>> Pages especially. It does fine for most individual tasks, but for
>>>>> collaborative work, I've got to go back to Windows, and I can't see that
>>>>> changing until they get Voiceover to do a better job with track changes
>>>>> and comments. And on a similar theme, I'd like a few more customisation
>>>>> options. Something not unlike the options in JAWS, where it can react
>>>>> differently depending on the text attributes it encounters. At the
>>>>> moment, having every single text change spoken is far too much
>>>>> information, but just playing the same sound for all changes sometimes
>>>>> isn't enough. In fact, I'd welcome more customisation across the board,
>>>>> like being able to toggle individual VO sounds on and off, rather than it
>>>>> being an all or nothing deal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and if single key navigation could turn off automatically when you
>>>>> enter a form field, I think that would be a really big improvement. It
>>>>> was a feature I thought I'd love in Lion, and I don't use it at all. Some
>>>>> of that is that the rest of VO's functionality makes it much less
>>>>> necessary than it was with JAWS, but some of it is that I don't want to
>>>>> go back to what's really just the equivalent of the old JAWS version of
>>>>> forms mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 Feb 2012, at 00:11, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I honestly hope they spend time working out the Voiceover bugs
>>>>>> introduced in Lion. Like the random pitch change with the premium
>>>>>> voices, the endless busy in Safari, Voiceover taking a million years to
>>>>>> come on at start up, or the reading of those phantom windows on start
>>>>>> up. As far as features, I would like to see an OCR feature like found
>>>>>> on a couple of windows screen readers. I think this will become
>>>>>> standard on all major screen readers. I would also like to see Apple
>>>>>> clean up the iCloud site. Its terrible from an accessibility stand
>>>>>> point. I would really like to see them add a remote feature for us to
>>>>>> help other Mac users like tandem in Jaws. This would be a big help to
>>>>>> IT folks, and those just willing to help others trouble shoot on the Mac.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Ashley wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> With the release of mac os 10.8 (mountain lion) nearing, what do you
>>>>>>> guys think we'll see in voiceover "4.0", the next version of Vo that
>>>>>>> will be included in this OS?
>>>>>>> ash
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