________________________________ From: Phil Enns <phil.enns@xxxxxxxxx> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011, 16:40 Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: the first lines are the argument referred by Donal McEvoy wrote: "Wondering which Hilary Putnam(and on which planet) Eric means?" >Perhaps this one? 'I shall, in short, argue that pain is not a brain state, in the sense of a physical-chemical state of the brain (or even the whole nervous system), but another kind of state entirely. I propose the hypothesis that pain, or the state of being in pain, is a functional state of a whole organism.' (Putnam, 'The Nature of Mental States')> So is this one the same one in Eric's post? The one who wouldn't agree, apparently, that a thought isn't identical to a brain state? >Apparently not everyone would agree that it is demonstrated that a thought >isn't identical to a brain state. Hilary Putnam, for example.> Even if 'twin-planet Putnams' explains the apparent discrepancy, it would seem these Putnams are not identical twins. Donal England