[lit-ideas] Re: education

  • From: Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 04:36:14 -0800 (PST)




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From: John McCreery <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx>
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 12:34 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: education


John:  Whether the battle is winnable in a world where market-fundamentalist 
economics are grounded in a neo-Calvinist view of humanity (a few blessed, 
mostly damned) is, I fear, open to question. Whether it is winnable in a world 
where, ever since the invention of writing,  scribe and ruler have worked hand 
in hand to exploit the rest, whatever the ideology said to govern economic 
affairs, is very much open to question.


Andy:  John, that's brilliant.  Neo-Calvinism is exactly the image for the 
increasing economic predestination this country is falling prey to.  In the 
same dicussion I heard yesterday on education (on television) it was said that 
at one time (I think he said 50 years ago) 17% of people stayed in the bottom 
20% of the economic ladder in the U.S.  Today that figure is up to 50%.  In 
Scandinavia it's 25% stay in place, and Europe 30% don't move up.  We've had 
severe losses in this country.  Scribe and ruler have in fact worked hand in 
hand to exploit the rest, what a beautiful image.  One hopes that the OWS 
protests make a dent in reversing this slide that we're in.   


Robert:   two of my former thesis students are successful wine makers, south of 
Portland, in the Willamette Valley <http://www.winesnw.com/will.html>, and 
Richard Danzig, '61,
was Secretary of the Navy, under Clinton.



Andy:  I'm encouraged that liberal arts are on their way back.  I like to think 
that I don't think I impress that easily, but Secretary of the Navy?  Wow, that 
is impressive, seriously.


For Adriano, thanks for your comments.  I beg to differ though.  Some of my 
best friends are creationists in cosmetology.  Very nice people too.

Andy

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