By the way, I have had a second retinal detachment surgery and am still recovering, so it's impossible to keep up with the list's intense volume. When eye heals and gas bubble goes away, I'll get some idea of what's going on in the external world or my self-representation of it. From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Enns Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:40 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: the first lines are the argument referred by Donal McEvoy wrote: "Wondering which Hilary Putnam (and on which planet) Eric means?" Perhaps this one? 'I shall, in short, argue that pain is not a brain state, in the sense of a physical-chemical state of the brain (or even the whole nervous system), but another kind of state entirely. I propose the hypothesis that pain, or the state of being in pain, is a functional state of a whole organism.' (Putnam, 'The Nature of Mental States') Sincerely, Phil Enns