[lit-ideas] Re: the first lines are the argument referred by
- From: "Adriano Palma" <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:07:59 +0200
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the beauty of the cartesian argument is that it is simple, so either you
show it is not valid or you show it is not sound. the rest is fluff.
(for the record, I d not think at all the so called question of
consciousness is the hardest problem of science, in part because it is
not exactly a problem and because it is of no consequence to anything at
all, with the possible partial exception of some contorted moral issues,
if kicking me in coma is to be assessed on the same plane as kicking me
not in coma etc.)
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>>> Phil Enns <phil.enns@xxxxxxxxx> 11/4/2011 3:03 PM >>>
Adriano Palma wrote:
"1. x=y then , for all properties/predicates P(y) IFF P(x) — [I use the
strongest for simplicity]
2. {from 1, by contrap} if P(y) & not-P(x), THEN y isn't identical to
x
3. apply to "x is a thought" and "y is a brain state", conclude y isn't
identical to x
qed
that is the argument"
Below is a link to an article I came across a few days ago.
http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/the-hardest-problem-in-science/40845
Apparently not everyone would agree that it is demonstrated that a
thought isn't identical to a brain state.
Phil Enns
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