LH: >>I tried to keep the discussion on the excellent recent example of two or >>three people getting on Eric about wanting to vaporize the terrorists before >>they had a chance to kill him. Those people used the Moral Equivalence >>argument to say that Eric was just as bad as the Terrorists.<< Ah, yes, I was one of those people. But I don't take Eric very seriously when it comes to politics. He keeps trying his best to be gonzo, but come a gentle breeze and he lapses into the splendiferies of Beethoven or Ravel. In short, he's a lousy tough guy. And you know as well as I do that no one on this list would argue against defending one's self or others or one's country against attack. What most object to with Eric is his call for exterminating the "Islamists". It's attention-getting, and about as morally bankrupt as you can get and I don't believe for a minute that he means what he's saying. He's just sick of liberal bromides and wants to prickle our souls. We all have our games. As to moral equivalence, I hear it used most in arguments against justification -- for instance against our President's justifications for pre-emptive war, for invading Iraq, for continuing the sanctions against Cuba, etc. -- all have been met with clean your own house first, Georgie. Moral equivalence is a very legitimate argument, and an effective one, as Jesus well knew, especially against those who claim to be acting in the name of goodness against evil-doers. Mike Geary Memphis