"If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences". That big ole 'if' sitting there. If grandma had wheels she'd be a railroad. If people behaved rationally we'd have heaven on earth (natural catastrophes notwithstanding, and even those would be dealt with much more positively). Unfortunately, 'if' virtually never happens. Denial rules. Reality doesn't enter into the picture until some shock happens after which the consensus changes and the 'reality' suddenly changes. So has the reality changed or has what everybody thinks about the reality changed? --- On Fri, 6/6/08, John McCreery <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: John McCreery <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: On Nip Thievery To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 4:36 AM On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Yes, of course, the earth was round, nature is not a human plaything, democracy was not on the march, etc. etc. The problem is humans are indifferent to everything unless they agree that it exists, that it's important, that it's not important, etc. Reality doesn't enter into the picture. To question anything is literally heresy, whether religious or political or any other kind. Humans also talk a good line about definitions but that's as far it goes most of the time. We stand on the shoulders of giants. William Isaac Thomas (b. Russell County, Virginia, 13 August 1863, d. Berkeley, California, 5 December 1947), was an American sociologist. He is noted for his pioneering work on the sociology of migration on which he co-operated with Florian Znaniecki, and for his formulation of what became known as the Thomas theorem, a fundamental law of sociology: "If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences". [Thomas, William I.; Thomas, Dorothy: The Child in America (Alfred Knopf, 1929, 2nd ed., p. 572)] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._I._Thomas John McCreery The Word Works, Ltd., Yokohama, JAPAN Tel. +81-45-314-9324 http://www.wordworks.jp/