Sounds like a man after my own heart. Given that even love is mostly just need projected onto others, there's nothing to redeem the survival machines called humans. Plants and animals are survival machines too, but without the pretensions that humans have. They also don't destroy their environment and call it progress. I wonder how the warmongers on this list feel about Schopenhauer. I'll bet the warmongers are optimists. Exterminate the other side and life is good. It's something to live for. > [Original Message] > From: Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 5/21/2006 4:56:53 PM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Mike and Schopenhauer > > > EH: > > > Mike will now have to share with us what he thinks constitutes > > Schopenhauer's > > pessimism. I think that in certain respects dear ol' Schopey can be quite > > an > > optimist (else he wouldn't think it possible to abolish one's will, now > > would > > he?) > > What constitues his pessimism is his sheer pessimism about human life which > is even deeper, danker and darker than anything Andy Amago ever dreamed > possible. As to his optimism, well, yes, I guess if you could call his > Thomas a Kempis asceticism 'optimism', then he was an optimist. But then > you'd have to believe that a mortician's art saves us all from death. At > least that's what I get from the first 10 paragraphs. > > Mike Geary > Memphis > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html