[lit-ideas] Re: Fwd: Re: Pound's treason
- From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 22:01:28 +0100
Actually Wagner's music is not performed in Israel, because he was an
anti-Semite himself (it's known from his writings) as well as because of
the fact that it was used by the Nazis. There were probably reasons that
Hitler liked Wagner.
The whole discourse about enjoying 'works of art' but shunning the people
who created them like a plague seems a bit... well... do as you like.
O.K.
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Mike Geary <jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Yes, of course it came from the man, Omar, but no man is one dimensional,
> not even Hitler who was obsessed with Wagner. Does that then damn
> all German Romantic music? I try to avoid all biographical information
> about all artists of whatever stripe because I really don't give a damn who
> created a work of art, my only interest is the work itself. I have
> always approached works of art this way. All art should be signed simply
> "Artist". If an artist feels compelled to voice his personal opinion about
> anything, I take it as having no more significance than my own opinions
> have upon the world. The Devil can quote Scripture and he canwrite
> hopdodddledang poetry as well. So saith I.
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> How profound, didn't the art come from the man ?
>>
>> O.K.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Mike Geary <jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 3:19 AM
>> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Pound's treason
>> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> Thanks for sending that, Robert. The conflict between art and artist can
>> be a sticky wicket, I agree -- especially when it concerns such serious
>> moral questions as Pound's treason, but even in that case I say condemn the
>> man, not his art -- his art in my encounter of it then belongs to me and my
>> world. His crime does not.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Lawrence quotes from *Wikipedia*.
>>>
>>> *In the late 1940s, when the poet Ezra Pound was incarcerated in St.
>>> Elizabeth’s Hospital on treason charges against the US, he corresponded
>>> with Mullins. In their correspondence, Mullins exclaimed "THE JEWS ARE
>>> BETRAYING US", in a letter written on Aryan League of America stationery.*
>>>
>>> Pound was never convicted of treason. He was found to be of unsound
>>> mind, incapable of understanding the court proceedings or of taking part in
>>> his own defense. Immediately after the trial he was taken to St Elizabeth's
>>> Hospital:
>>> 'insane.' He remained there for twelve years. (The Federal prosecutors
>>> apparently did not present their case with much vigor.)
>>>
>>> I believe the best account of what happened to Pound, after he was
>>> arrested by the US, in Italy, and ended
>>> up in St Elizabeth's, is an article by Robert Wernick. But of course,
>>> that's only what I believe.
>>>
>>> <http://www.robertwernick.com/articles/pound.shtml>
>>>
>>> Robert Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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