Popper on knowledge and ignorance (from the beginning of "The Logic of the Social Sciences", reprinted as Ch.5 "In Search of a Better World":- "_First thesis_: We have a fair amount of knowledge. Moreover, we know not only details of doubtful intellectual interest, but also, and more especially, things that are not only of considerable practical importance, but may, in addition, provide us with deep theoretical insight, and with a surprising understanding of the world. _Second thesis_: Our ignorance is boundless and sobering. Indeed, it is precisely this overwhelming progress of the natural sciences (to which my first thesis alludes) that continually reminds us of our ignorance, even in the field of the natural sciences themselves. This gives a new twist to the Socratic idea of ignorance. With each step forward, with every problem we solve, we not only discover new and unsolved problems, but we also discover that just when we believed that we were standing on firm and safe ground, all things are, in reality, insecure and unstable. Of course, my two theses about knowledge and ignorance only appear to contradict each other. The chief cause of this apparent contradiction lies in the fact that the word 'knowledge' is used in a rather different sense in each of the two theses: so much so that I propose to make this explicit in the following third thesis. _Third thesis_: Every theory of knowledge has a fundamentally important task, which may even be regarded as its crucial test: it must do justice to our first two theses by clarifying the relations between our remarkable and constantly increasing knowledge and our constantly increasing insight that in reality we know nothing.... _Fourth thesis_: So far as one can say at all that science or knowledge starts from something, one might say the following: Knowledge does not start from perceptions or observations or the collection of data or facts; it starts, rather, from _problems_. One might say: No knowledge without problems; but also, no problems without knowledge. But this means that knowledge starts from the tension between knowledge and ignorance: No problems without knowledge - no problems without ignorance. For every problem arises from the discovery that there is something amiss within our supposed knowledge; or, viewed logically, from the inner contradiction in our supposed knowledge, or of a contradiction between our supposed knowledge and the facts; or, to be more accurate, from the discovery of an apparent contradiction between our supposed knowledge and the supposed facts." Of course, these are the views of a theorist of knowledge who believes that epistemology in its logical analysis is to be separated from the social and psychological explanation of 'knowledge' [as a kind of 'power', for example] and such views may not appeal to the "agnotologist" who may wear the guise of a theorist of knowledge but in fact be a proponent of a specific sociological theory of knowledge which is covertly advanced by explaining 'ignorance' in terms of social biases. Donal London ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html