[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: UTDML and where brl noes can appear
- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 11:59:02 -0500
I don't know if they are no longer needed. They are certinlay out of
date.
John
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 05:37:44PM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:
> So from what you are saying are the files wordDocument.sem and
> w_wordDocument.sem no longer needed? If so why have they not been
> deleted from the project?
>
> I must stress though, this is not docx, it is Word XML, like if you
> select the format Word XML 2003 in the save dialog of word (it is a
> single XML not an archive containing multiple files). Will docx.sem work
> on this?
>
> Will I need to create a config file to ensure docx.sem is used?
>
> Michael Whapples
> On 18/10/2013 17:25, John J. Boyer wrote:
> >Separate semantic-action files are not needed for documents that use
> >namespaces. Semantic-action files use only the local names. Given the
> >possibility of name conflicts, maybe this should be changed.
> >
> >Both of the old MSWord semantic-action files are wrong. Look at docx.sem
> >in the lbu_files directory of liblouisutdmll. You can correct or delete
> >the old files.
> >
> >John
> >
> >On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 04:37:35PM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:
> >>If that is so then the Word XML semantic action files (I believe both
> >>wordDocument.sem and w_wordDocument.sem are wrong as they assign
> >>document action to wordDocument and w:wordDocument elements.
> >>
> >>PS. Why do we need separate semantic action files for when a namespace
> >>is used or not? Also relying on the XML to alias the namespace as w:
> >>seems to be wrong as potentially one can alias it as they like: eg.
> >>xmlns:w="..." or xmlns:word="...", both would be correct XML and mean
> >>the same.
> >>
> >>Michael Whapples
> >>On 18/10/2013 02:16, John J. Boyer wrote:
> >>>In dtbook.sem ad nimas.sem the action document is given to <book>
> >>>because it contains the actual docummennt. <dtbook> contains the head
> >>>node as well. So for the xml part of docx <body> must be given the
> >>>action document. The root element <document> gets no action. That is the
> >>>way things are set up.
> >>>
> >>>John
> >>>
> >>>On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 09:09:52PM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:
> >>>>No the document node should be w:wordDocument.
> >>>>
> >>>>Looks like w:body is given the action no.
> >>>>
> >>>>In Word XML w:body is like body in HTML, where the body of the document
> >>>>will be found, so why should brl nodes appear outside that?
> >>>>
> >>>>Also I notice two .sem files for Word documents, looks like one is for
> >>>>when there is a XML namespace in the Word XML and the other is for where
> >>>>there is not. There seems to be differences between these (eg.
> >>>>w:wordDocument has action no where as wordDocument has action document).
> >>>>
> >>>>Michael Whapples
> >>>>On 17/10/2013 18:09, John J. Boyer wrote:
> >>>>>What semantic action is asigned to the w:body node? It should be
> >>>>>document. Lok at the docx.sem file in lbu_files .
> >>>>>
> >>>>>John
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 05:46:50PM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:
> >>>>>>Where can the brl nodes appear in a UTDML document?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>We have a Word XML file which has been marked with UTDML and the last
> >>>>>>brl node for the last page number appears outside the document body
> >>>>>>(w:body) element. This looks strange and means that one has to get the
> >>>>>>parser to look outside the body of the document to get all Braille,
> >>>>>>which is certainly sub-optimal as one will need to filter out much
> >>>>>>unwanted stuff.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Is LibLouisUTDML working correctly in placing this brl node outside
> >>>>>>the
> >>>>>>body element?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Michael Whapples
> >>>>>>For a description of the software, to download it and links to
> >>>>>>project pages go to http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> >>>>For a description of the software, to download it and links to
> >>>>project pages go to http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> >>For a description of the software, to download it and links to
> >>project pages go to http://www.abilitiessoft.com
>
> For a description of the software, to download it and links to
> project pages go to http://www.abilitiessoft.com
--
John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer
Abilitiessoft, Inc.
http://www.abilitiessoft.com
Madison, Wisconsin USA
Developing software for people with disabilities
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project pages go to http://www.abilitiessoft.com
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