[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: UEB
- From: Ken Perry <kperry@xxxxxxx>
- To: "liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:30:00 +0000
I will think on this and get some examples. No need to fix it if I can't come
up with more than a few examples and as you say how it would work. So I am not
ignoring this email I am just taking a moment to think about it.
Ken
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Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: UEB
Ken,
Here is some background. I hadn't thought this through carefully.
opcodes such as begword and midword prevent the end of the string from being
contracted with anything that follows the syllable opcode also prevents
contraction with anything that precedes. Using the syllable opcode at the
beginning of a word would be equivalent to begword.
With this background, how would a firstsyllable opcode work? What tests should
the code perform?
John
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 11:51:57PM +0000, Ken Perry wrote:
> Ok last email on this because my suggestion is being ignored. I think rather
> than having a long list of exceptions as we do in en-us-g2 and as we will
> have to in ueb it would be better to have a first sylibol opp code so that
> the tables could be cleaner and I think it would even cause some of the
> translations to be faster. I know faster is not a goal but easier to read
> and write tables would be very nice.
>
>
> Ken
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> J. Boyer
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>
> The existing xyllable opcode should do the jo0b.
>
> John
>
> On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 05:08:51PM +0000, Ken Perry wrote:
> > Ok I see the special rules but I am going to ask again would it be so bad
> > to have a first sylibol op code?
> >
> > Ken
> >
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> > [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John
> > J. Boyer
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> > Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: UEB
> >
> > In en-us-g2.ctb things like this are handled with speecial rules. Look at
> > the strings beginning with be They should all be together. be is an
> > eespecially tough beginning-or-word string. You might also look at the
> > syllable opcode. There are eexamples of it in en-us-g2.ctb also, for
> > example, for head hood heart, etc.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:48:38AM +0000, Ken Perry wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't know if Joseph and Mesar have already asked this but I am helping
> > > with the new UEB tables and have found either a missing opp code or I am
> > > not able to figure out how to do the f10.6.4 UEB rule with Dis Con and
> > > Be. It says if it is in the first syllable then you can use these
> > > contractions. I can handle words like control with a beg word. But what
> > > I really need is a firstsylibol opp code for words like been benefits.
> > > Or am I wrong can we do something with a context test and action to do
> > > this right. So let me be clear the rule is the 10.6.4 low group signs
> > > can only be in the first syllable but that is not guaranteed to be the
> > > beginning of the word.
> > >
> > > Ken
> >
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> http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> Madison, Wisconsin USA
> Developing software for people with disabilities
>
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http://www.abilitiessoft.com
Madison, Wisconsin USA
Developing software for people with disabilities
For a description of the software, to download it and links to project pages go
to http://www.abilitiessoft.com
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