David; That's an interesting chain of events that you foresee and you've convinced me that this is what will probably happen. Film has been edged out of so many of its former uses, no wonder that the market for film and the chemistry that accompanies it has impacted the demand. nevertheless, luddites, like myself and quite a few others, will probably soldier on making their silver images. Dave ________________________________ From: David Young <dsy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 8:12:18 AM Subject: [LRflex] Re: Something somewhat different Dave Simms wrote: Steve; I'm sorry if I came across as condescending, phew ! Just trying to explain my thoughts re. film becoming a more cultish art form but, nevertheless surviving. G'mornin' Dave! Film will, of course, survive - in the same way that vacuum tubes have survived. Tubes (valves in the UK) have long since ceased to be manufactured in Europe and North America. Their makers sold their equipment, in job lots, and the factories were set up, once more, in places like the Ukraine, Belarus, Vietnam and Cambodia. Here, because of very low costs for capital, rent and labour, they can survive in a very small, niche market. Quality control is not what it once was, but prices are low enough that you simply buy two! Film will probably follow the same pattern. Eventually Kodak, Fuji and others will abandon the field. They'll sell their equipment and it will get moved to some country with exceedingly low manufacturing costs. (These days Bangladesh, Kazakhstan and some of the other "stans", spring to mind, though their will be other choices by the time this happens.) As with tubes, innovation and advancement will be a thing of the past, and only a limited variety of the most popular emulsions will continue to be made. As with tubes, quality control will become more problematical - a more serious problem for colour shooters. You can, of course, do what one of my friends has done. He has a freezer full of b&w 35mm movie stock - a little over 10,000 feet of it, as I recall. He has also stockpiled enough chemicals to mix his own developers for the next 30 years. Given that, like me, he's in his early sixties, he'll have film and developer in his 90's ... and it's not likely he'll need more! Colour shooters can do likewise, though out-of-date E6 films don't survive as well as b&w, even when frozen. Cheers! --- David Young Logan Lake, Canada. Wildlife Photos: www.furnfeather.netPersonal Website: www.main.furnfeather.net __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/