[LRflex] Re: R lenses

  • From: "Axel Collier" <axel.collier@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:42:22 +0100

Thank you Charlie
greetings, axel

----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Chan" <topoxforddoc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:29 AM
Subject: [LRflex] Re: R lenses


That's the one. I've got one as well (80-200/4 ROM Kyocera made). Has
to be the bargain of the R lens range. GBP500-600 now on the used
market and IQ wise hardly much difference between it and its bigger
cousin, the 70-180/2.8 APO.

Charlie Chan
Cheltenham, UK

topoxforddoc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.cancer-surgeon.co.uk
www.charlie-chan.co.uk



On 30 Nov 2009, at 22:56, Axel Collier wrote:

hi Doug
is the 80-200mm f4 you talk about a Vario-Elmar?
thank you
Axel
Vario- Elmar
----- Original Message ----- From: <wildlightphoto@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:46 PM
Subject: [LRflex] Re: R lenses


David Simms wrote:

... the sterling 70mm to 180mm zoom which is reputedly as sharp, or
sharper,
as any of the best single focal length lenses.

zooms!  I forgot all about zooms.  In the longer end of the focal  length
range Leica has sold several models.  The 70-180 f/2.8 APO certainly
deserves its sterling reputation. Nearly as good and much smaller, lighter
and affordable is the 80-200mm f/4.

The 80-200 f/4 is a Leica design made for Leica by Kyocera in Japan. Don't be bothered by the manufacturing location, this is as Leica a lens as they
come.  Sharp at full aperture with excellent color rendition, flare
resistance and bokeh, some light fall-off toward the corners at f/4,  very
solid Leica construction quality.

Other lenses in this range are Minolta designs, made by Minolta for Leica,
in chronological order:

80-200mm f/4.5 - quite an old design, from 1976 IIRC
75-200mm f/4.5
70-210mm f/4

The f/4.5 lenses use 55mm filters, the f/4 zooms use 60mm filters.   The
Minolta-sourced lenses were good in their day, but the 80-200 f/4  and the
70-180 APO are quite a bit better.

My experience with the Minolta-sourced zooms is limited to the 75-200 f/4.5 which has excellent flare resistance, but shows some wierd bokeh artifacts
and isn't Leica construction quality.  It also has a hood that  cannot be
retracted at the shortest focal lenght, making turning a polarizing filter frustrating. The front element also rotates while focussing so this is not
a lens I'd recommend for using a polarizing filter.  Contrasted with  this
the 80-200mm f/4 has non-rotating focus and the hood can be  retracted at
all focal lengths.

At the short end Leica also made a 21-35mm which I have no experience with.

Doug Herr
Birdman of Sacramento
http://www.wildlightphoto.com


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