FWIW, I traded in the 35-70/3.5 and the 28-70 towards the new 28-90 Asph. I found absolutely nothing wrong with either of the lenses I traded in, but simply wanted to try the newest R zoom lens with the added focal length at either end. The 28-90 is a great performer. It is nice to have both the 28 and the 90 available-the extended range is something that I find useful. I keep the 28-90 on the R9 almost continuously...it is razor sharp, but much heavier and larger then the two zoom lenses mentioned already. Allow me to add that the 80-200 is great for portraits and when one needs more "zooming power", and I agree with those who have stated that the 80-200 is-dollar for dollar-perhaps the best bargain in Leica R lenses. Although I have slowly added and traded for many R lenses over the years, I think that I could easily get by with the two zooms alluded to above ( 28-90, 80-200 ), and the new 50/1.4 which, to my mind, has a look and fidelity that is truly unique. However, a discussion of "that 50mm lens" is for another time. Let us know what you chose to do, and of course, the very best of luck. Elliot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juan Gea-Banacloche" <banacloj@xxxxxxx> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:24 PM Subject: [LRflex] Re: Mid range zoom advice > Hello, Aram. I am going to use your question as an excuse to > introduce myself to the group. Some may remember me from the LUG, > which I still follow intermittently. I am a Spanish physician who > lives and works in the US, in Washington DC. I started in photography > in the late seventies, and I got my first Leica (a model 0, of all > things!) as a present from my wife for my 40th birthday, in 2002. > Somehow this event (and discovering eBay) pushed me to get some of > the cameras I had only dreamed about in the 70s. This included a > Leicaflex SL, then a SL2 (which was what I was aiming for) a Leica M3 > and some other accidents along the way. > Although I am happy to use from time to time a Leica rangefinder, the > truth is I like tele lenses better, and I feel much more comfortable > with reflex cameras. So it was only a matter of time before I started > following this forum. > > By the way, it is only fair I publicly thank David Young for this > list and his website, as well as Doug Herr for his website (which I > have not visited since the password protection) and his constant > friendly advice in this and other lists. > > I must add I am mainly (if only in terms of number of pictures taken) > a Contax user. It may be helpful to remember this to understand > possible bias... > > Anyway-- as you probably have found out the 28-70 is not a Leica > design, but a Sigma design. It looks like Leica disowns this lens > now: it is not included in Erwin Put's review of R lenses > (downloadable in pdf format from the Leica website) and Adorama was > offering it not long ago as a closeout sale (for $900) and is not > offered anymore. I take this to mean it is not being produced > anymore. With this in mind, and "Leica standards of quality control" > notwithstanding, I would think the 28-70 is probably just like a > Tamron... (which may be very good, by the way. I just mean to say > that I am not sure there is a reason to prefer the Leica 28-70 to a, > say, Tamron 28-105 aspherical with an R adapter) > > If you are looking second-hand, I would also consider the older > 35-70/3.5. I have found it is really good, except for some flare. The > 35-70/4 is typically (used) twice as expensive. By accident, I ended > up having both. I have not conducted any formal testing, but both, on > prints from negatives, looked to my amateurish eyes on par with > primes used on the same rolls). > > If money is no object, get the 28-90mm 2.8-4.5 ASPH. > > Good luck! > > Juan > > > On Feb 7, 2006, at 2:44 PM, Aram Langhans wrote: > >> I am thinking the unforgivable - actually buying a zoom lens. I >> thought a >> mid range one would be the place to start since the majority of my >> shots are >> with a 35, 50, or the 100 APO. >> So, I have heard good things about the 35-70 f-4 zoom. I know >> there is also >> a 28-70 f-3.5-4.5 zoom, but I can only remember vague not-so-good >> references >> to it. I checked out Doug's site and he has no experience or >> description of >> the latter. The extra wide range might be a good thing if I ever >> decided to I >> get a digital body with a crop factor. >> >> So, can anyone give me feedback on these two lenses? >> >> Don't worry. I will not be giving up my primes, especially the >> 100. I just >> thougth it might lighten my load a bit and speed some travel/ >> tourist type >> shots with the zoom. >> >> Aram >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on >> how to >> get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement >> >> ------ >> Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: >> http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm >> Archives are at: >> //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > > ------ > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm > Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/