[kismac] Re: New SVN Server?!
- From: Ron Rosson <ron.rosson@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "kismac@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <kismac@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:25:56 -0600
I am all for fresh code going into Kismac.
In being hasty we might be shooting ourselves in the foot. Mick has been
working with this for quite some time and might have some things he has not
shared with the list on what/where the software is going.
So with that said at minimum give it the weekend to see if Mick responds.
Someone (themacuser?) do a WHOIS on Mick's domain and see if they can
contact him using that information.
It would really suck if this happens and it turns ugly.. We all have waited
this long waiting for a response might be beneficial.
-Ron
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Ron Rosson
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http://www.oneinsane.net
> From: themacuser <themacuser@xxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: "kismac@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <kismac@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:18:57 +1030
> To: "kismac@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <kismac@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [kismac] Re: New SVN Server?!
>
> I say we fork. It's 11:17PM here where I am, I'll see how the
> discussion goes when I'm gone...
> On 27/01/2006, at 10:55 PM, themacuser wrote:
>
>> I don't think we do besides Mick...
>>
>> What do we reckon? Fork or don't fork? Will we get a reply from
>> Mick if we don't?
>> On 27/01/2006, at 10:54 PM, Francis Gulotta wrote:
>>
>>> And the admins? Well, do we have any admins?
>>>
>>> -Francis
>>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2006, at 7:19 AM, themacuser wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd rather have one project. But I'd rather have two projects,
>>>> one forking off the other, if the original goes stagnant.
>>>>
>>>> Mick seems to own the server and nobody else seems to have commit
>>>> access to it, as all of the commits are from him.
>>>>
>>>> On 27/01/2006, at 10:46 PM, Francis Gulotta wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I haven't been involved with kismac for a long time*, Mick's
>>>>> busy but he's the head hauncho last I checked. I was assuming
>>>>> other people were brought in to help. That being said, why not
>>>>> bring other people in to help? If there's a server (Doesn't Mick
>>>>> have one, what do we use now?) and an admin for the svn/trac
>>>>> then why not? I'd much rather have one project then fork out and
>>>>> have a few.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Francis
>>>>>
>>>>> *and even then...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 27, 2006, at 6:56 AM, themacuser wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, I have tried to contact him too on a few occasions, he
>>>>>> said that he'd try to include my patches in the next version
>>>>>> (r76 as r75 was the one out at the time), it didn't happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27/01/2006, at 10:20 PM, numE wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried to contact mick serveral times in the past..
>>>>>>> concerning universal binary support, etc...
>>>>>>> i never got any response...
>>>>>>> perhaps you'll have more luck...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Geoffrey Kruse schrieb:
>>>>>>>> I hosted the cvs server for KisMac back in the day on my cable
>>>>>>>> connection... I could possibly do the same for SVN but it
>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>> nothing spectacular speed wise. Also just a thought, I'd
>>>>>>>> wait to hear
>>>>>>>> from Mick and get his thoughts on forking etc. It might just be
>>>>>>>> easier to wait until he responds and use the current server
>>>>>>>> setup,
>>>>>>>> maybe adding trac. Adding admins to a project is a lot less
>>>>>>>> work than
>>>>>>>> forking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Geoff
>>>>>>>> On Jan 27, 2006, at 7:42 AM, themacuser wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The trouble is that trac requires a server. At the moment,
>>>>>>>>> gm2.ath.cx
>>>>>>>>> is a bit small to handle something like svn managment or
>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>> like trac. Can someone else offer a server? I've sent in an
>>>>>>>>> application to SourceForge for the project, we might not end up
>>>>>>>>> needing it, but we can use it just to provide downloads etc
>>>>>>>>> if need
>>>>>>>>> be...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Subversion is only available to some projects in a beta
>>>>>>>>> test, but
>>>>>>>>> IME, subversion has no real differences from CVS in actual
>>>>>>>>> practice.
>>>>>>>>> Some time around February is the planned release date for
>>>>>>>>> giving SVN
>>>>>>>>> to everyone. That's not too far away.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to be a project admin and help set things up?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 27/01/2006, at 10:02 PM, numE wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We could swap to another hoster later... if there are
>>>>>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>>>>>> another thing we should definitly look at is the so called
>>>>>>>>>> "trac
>>>>>>>>>> system".
>>>>>>>>>> it's much better than the default sourceforge thing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> here you can see it in action:
>>>>>>>>>> trac.adiumx.com (adiumx is an osx instant messager probably
>>>>>>>>>> all of you
>>>>>>>>>> know) ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Francis Gulotta schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>>> This is really cool, but I don't know if they offer svn to
>>>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>>> project yet or if it's still in trial. Just look out for it.
>>>>>>>>>>> -Francis
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 27, 2006, at 6:22 AM, themacuser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm signing up a project page on sourceforge now. Do you
>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> an admin on the project too? Sign up at http://sf.net and
>>>>>>>>>>>> tell me
>>>>>>>>>>>> your username.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/01/2006, at 9:48 PM, themacuser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent! I like it. Now how did I not think of that?
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/01/2006, at 9:43 PM, numE wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What about KisMac Reloaded? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> themacuser schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking we should go with sourceforge - that's
>>>>>>>>>>>> where most
>>>>>>>>>>>> opensource projects go.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone else think we should/shouldn't?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If we do want to fork off KisMac, we sould change the
>>>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>>>> name I
>>>>>>>>>>>> guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> KisMac seemed to be non open-source in the early days
>>>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>> SVN...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The SVN release seems to be named KisMacNG (NG
>>>>>>>>>>>> standing for next
>>>>>>>>>>>> generation?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How about calling the release "KisMacTG" as in third
>>>>>>>>>>>> generation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/01/2006, at 1:47 AM, numE wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems like there are some people willing
>>>>>>>>>>>> to restart the development of kismac.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What about setting up a new SVN server + bugtracker etc?
>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a very nice system:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://trac.edgewall.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the adiumx guys use it, too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Francis Gulotta
>>>>>>>>>>> reconbot@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just this guy, you know?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Francis Gulotta
>>>>> reconbot@xxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Francis Gulotta
>>> reconbot@xxxxxxx
>>> I'm just this guy, you know?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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