Gerry, I am the master of spellig nerrors - Gerroff! Peter DoDDs and cIx !!<g> Our guys are having a ball with this event with 9 members taking part (with 178 members in total, 9 is a lot for an event, believe me <g>). We have a number of international members, and one, from Canada, is using the event to learn about the UK! Last night I was too tired for ATC, so decided to explore the Tiger Moth's bottom end limits. I found I could approach a strip (Halwell 460m long) at 50mph or a tad less, touching down at 40mph JUST above the stall, and stop in about 350m with no brakes. One unexpected delight from this really slow approach and round out was that every touchdown was a greaser. Previously I tended to touch down at about 60mph with significant complaint from the undercarriage laccy bands and often a bounce. I for one am learning far tighter control of my fave aircraft. The other thing I have noticed is how much more I use the rudders when real world flying than I used to. This comes from excessive Tiger flying on FS! Peter