RE: removing authorization key, putting it back later

From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:42:54 -0800
Sean,
Yes, it does. Ghost copies "everything" including the ILM auth code file.
Cheers,
Joseph 

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Sean McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:37 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later

However, I've heard that ghoast won't restore something like an
authorization key.  Am I incorrect about that point?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: removing authorization key, putting it back later


> Sean,
> This is when Ghost and other disk cloning software plays an important
role.
> If you've encountered a system crash (assuming that it is not the 
> hardware), you can restore your system to the previously working state 
> and start from scratch.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Sean M McMahon
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:55 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
>
> My point exactly.  If I backup other windows software, I can fully 
> restore my system from that backup.  If I backup jaws, I cannot fully 
> fully restore it from my backup.  This seems to violate fair use to me.
>
> jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 01/31/2007 11:16:40 AM:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> You most likely can backup your JAWS cd or ILM cd just like you can
> backup
>> an Office or XP cd but this doesn't effect the ILM key on the pc.
>> There
> is
>> a way to backup the ILM key but once you make a hardware change it
> really
>> doesn't matter since your locking code will have changed making the 
>> key void.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> =======
>>
>> Visit my webpage at www.blind-geek-zone.net
>>
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> related
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>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sean McMahon" <smcmahon@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
>>
>>
>> hmm..  Just a thought, does the authorization scheme of fs and soon,
> vista,
>> violate the concept of fair use?  I'm not a legal person, but just 
>> wondering.
>> For example, if you've ever read a user lisence aggreement for MS 
>> Word
> it
>> says
>> that you can make one backup coppy for personal use.  We can't
> effectibely
>> do
>> this with Jaws.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Robert S. Batchelor" <leehigh73@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:01 PM
>> Subject: RE: removing authorization key, putting it back later
>>
>>
>> >I can name one, now that you asked!
>> >
>> > VISTA  will be doing the very same thing....coming to a store near 
>> > you
>
>> > soon!
>> >
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
>> > Of John Heim
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:45 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
>> >
>> > Geez! I already explained what is my problem with it.  It's damn 
>> > inconvenient to have to get a new authorization code every time you 
>> > do something as minor as swap out a CD-ROM drive oraa video card.
>> > That's ridiculous. No other piece of software that I know of 
>> > requires
> anything
>> > like
>> >
>> > that. And knowing about it doesn't make it any better. it's still
> stupid.
>> >
>> > You say you don't have a problem  with it. Why not? Can you tell me 
>> > of
>
>> > other
>> >
>> > licensed software that has such a draconian authorization scheme?
> Isn't
>> > jaws
>> >
>> > authorization scheme *the* very worst? Can you name one that is worse?
>> >
>> > From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:59 PM
>> > Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
>> >
>> >
>> >> So what's the big deal??? You had to wait till the next morning?
>> >> FS clearly states if you have one ILM left you should call and 
>> >> have it reset. FS asks no questions and I feel it's a acceptable 
>> >> practace for the most part.
>> >>
>> >> Rick
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> =======
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>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "John Heim" <jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:51 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It was a Sunday night so I didn't get reauthorized until the next
> day.
>> >>
>> >> The real problem is that when stuff like this happens, it looks bad.
> It
>> >> makes me look like a burden to my  employer and it makes me angry
> with
>> >> FS.
>> >> When something as simple as swapping out a CD-ROM drive becomes a 
>> >> half-day ordeal, it makes me look incompetant. I shouldn't have to 
>> >> go through that.
>> >> Like a lot of techies, Monday morning is busy for me. It is
> unacceptable
>> >> for
>> >> my PC to be popping up messages saying I have to reboot in 3 minutes.
>
>> >> I'm
>> >> supposed to be *fixing* computers, not struggling to keep my own
> working.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
>> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:07 PM
>> >> Subject: RE: removing authorization key, putting it back later
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> That is a bit much, although it's just a technicality. Did St.
>> >>> Petersburg have you up and running again quickly?
>> >>>
>> >>> Ted
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
>> >>> On Behalf Of John Heim
>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:49 AM
>> >>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't know which way is better. A couple of weeks ago, my 
>> >>> CD-ROM
> drive
>> >>>
>> >>> died. I swapped in a new one and lost my jaws authorization. Now,
> that
>> >>> is
>> >>> bogus.  Why in the world would I have to reauthorize a license 
>> >>> for anything just because I swapped out a CD-ROM drive? Oh, I 
>> >>> know there is a
> good
>> >>> *technical* explanation. But from a customer service standpoint,
> that is
>> >>>
>> >>> truly bogus.
>> >>>
>> >>> When you pay $1000 for a piece of software, you expect better
> service
>> >>> than
>> >>> that.
>> >>>
>> >>> From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
>> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:58 AM
>> >>> Subject: RE: removing authorization key, putting it back later
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> This is really not as big a hassle as it seems.  In a lot of 
>> >>>> ways,
>> >>> ILM's
>> >>>> are less trouble than their predecessors.  You no longer have to
> worry
>> >>>> about an optimization program trashing your key.  Furthermore, 
>> >>>> if
> you
>> >>> do
>> >>>> need a fresh supply, getting replacements is far easier than it
> used
>> >>> to
>> >>>> be.  The old process involved either reset codes, which did not
> always
>> >>>> work, or waiting for a fresh disc to arrive.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ted
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
>> >>>> On Behalf Of Leonard Salinas
>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:30 AM
>> >>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> Subject: re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> not only that, if you change any hardware in your system the ilm 
>> >>>> authorization is render invalid.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Legend has it that on Monday 1/29/2007 11:23 PM, Joseph Lee said:
>> >>>>>Patricia,
>> >>>>>ILM is different from Quela authorization.
>> >>>>>If you have Quela autherization (JAWS 5.1 or earlier), use 
>> >>>>>HJAUTH utility to save the auth key back to the diskette and 
>> >>>>>install it later.  With ILM, you can indeed remove auth code, 
>> >>>>>but you cannot install it later.
>> >>>>>You'll need to activate it again (ILM looks for the hardware 
>> >>>>>fingerprint in order for it to work).  If the drive is changed 
>> >>>>>(for example, formatted), then it will ask you to reactivate it.
>> >>>>>Cheers,
>> >>>>>Joseph
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>From: "Patricia" <bcsarah.fan@xxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>>Date sent: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:21:52 -0800
>> >>>>>>Subject: removing authorization key, putting
>> >>>>>it back later
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>is there a way that you can remove your
>> >>>>>authorization key (sauy for formatting your computer) and then 
>> >>>>>putting it back later so that you don't have to redo your keys 
>> >>>>>thereby losing another key? I don't see any way of doing this, 
>> >>>>>and am asking on a friend's behalf but I think that if there 
>> >>>>>ins't a
> way
>> >>>>>there should be because then people wouldn't have to constantly
> call
>> >>>>>FS or fill out the form online.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>Patricia
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>e-mail: bcsarah.fan@xxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>>msn: bc_sarah_fan@xxxxxxxxxxx
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