Gary, I went looking for this option to try out. I use Jaws 7.0. I put up the Configuration Manager. I pulled down the options settings menu. I opened the Verbosity item, as you specified. But all I found there was the usual set of radio buttons for choosing beginner, intermediate or advanced, and then the three items with lists in which you can customize what will be spoken under that radio button setting. That's all that's in the Verbosity item under Options Settings. However, I thought it sounded like something related to HTML processing, so I opened the menu again and tried that item. Sure enough, on the Misc. tab, there it was, the setting you so helpfully suggested checking. I did that, clicked OK, saved my default.jcf file before exiting, and tried out a familiar site where I know that some labels and controls don't speak in the midst of a forms area if I'm in Forms Mode, but only if I get out of Forms Mode and look for them in Virtual Mode. And this time I found those labels spoken, without leaving Forms Mode. So this looks like a helpful thing. Why wouldn't this just be the default? Do you have any idea what purpose could be served by *not* allowing Jaws to see some necessary labels while you're in Forms Mode? I lack the programming background to intuit the rationale. Again, thanks for pointing out that setting. radisuggs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@xxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: Re: jaws 7.1 and form fields John, If the Web site is designed well enough that you are able to determine which labels are associated with which fields while in Virtual Cursor Mode, try going into the Verbosity Menu and turning on Forms Mode Uses Virtual Labels. This should allow you to hear the same labels you would hear in Virtual Cursor Mode while you are tabbing through the form in Forms Mode. Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: John Ramsey To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:37 PM Subject: RE: jaws 7.1 and form fields Rob, I don't have that problem, but I have a forms related problem. Occasionally, when I hit enter or the space bar to go into forms mode and fill out the first line of information, and then tab to the next field, JFW does not tell me what that field is. For instance, if I hit enter on first name and type in John and then tab to the next field, JFW doesn't say Last name. If someone can cure that one I will greatly appreciate the help. Take care, John -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Monitor Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:39 PM To: jfw Subject: jaws 7.1 and form fields Hi, Does any one else have a problem like this? When I'm filling out some thing jfw7.1 says that I'm in the form line above the one I'm really in. So what I mean is say if I'm putting my user name and then tap down to put my pass word it says that I'm still in the user name line but really I'm in the pass word line... Now if any one understands this and has any ideas please let me know... THANKS ROB -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 10/18/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 10/18/2006 -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx