Re: jaws 7.1 and form fields
- From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:58:18 -0500
Yardbird,
When I pointed out this setting, I didn't mention the Configuration Manager
or the Verbosity settings there. I was referring to the Verbosity Menu
accessed with Insert+v. I don't know if there is a downside to making this
setting universal or not, and this is why I try it out in the Verbosity Menu
first. If it works well on a site I visit regularly, I can use
Shift+Insert+v to make the setting permanent for that Web site. I also do
this with Flash since some sites will not give me any information with Flash
disabled universally in the Configuration Manager.
Gary King
w4wkz@xxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: jaws 7.1 and form fields
Gary,
I went looking for this option to try out. I use Jaws 7.0. I put up the
Configuration Manager. I pulled down the options settings menu. I opened
the Verbosity item, as you specified. But all I found there was the usual
set of radio buttons for choosing beginner, intermediate or advanced, and
then the three items with lists in which you can customize what will be
spoken under that radio button setting. That's all that's in the
Verbosity
item under Options Settings.
However, I thought it sounded like something related to HTML processing,
so
I opened the menu again and tried that item. Sure enough, on the Misc.
tab,
there it was, the setting you so helpfully suggested checking. I did
that,
clicked OK, saved my default.jcf file before exiting, and tried out a
familiar site where I know that some labels and controls don't speak in
the
midst of a forms area if I'm in Forms Mode, but only if I get out of Forms
Mode and look for them in Virtual Mode. And this time I found those
labels
spoken, without leaving Forms Mode. So this looks like a helpful thing.
Why wouldn't this just be the default? Do you have any idea what purpose
could be served by *not* allowing Jaws to see some necessary labels while
you're in Forms Mode? I lack the programming background to intuit the
rationale.
Again, thanks for pointing out that setting.
radisuggs
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: jaws 7.1 and form fields
John,
If the Web site is designed well enough that you are able to determine
which
labels are associated with which fields while in Virtual Cursor Mode, try
going into the Verbosity Menu and turning on Forms Mode Uses Virtual
Labels.
This should allow you to hear the same labels you would hear in Virtual
Cursor Mode while you are tabbing through the form in Forms Mode.
Gary King
w4wkz@xxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: John Ramsey
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: jaws 7.1 and form fields
Rob,
I don't have that problem, but I have a forms related problem.
Occasionally, when I hit enter or the space bar to go into forms mode and
fill out the first line of information, and then tab to the next field,
JFW
does not tell me what that field is. For instance, if I hit enter on first
name and type in John and then tab to the next field, JFW doesn't say Last
name.
If someone can cure that one I will greatly appreciate the help.
Take care,
John
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Rob Monitor
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:39 PM
To: jfw
Subject: jaws 7.1 and form fields
Hi, Does any one else have a problem like this? When I'm filling out some
thing jfw7.1 says that I'm in the form line above the one I'm really in.
So
what I mean is say if I'm putting my user name and then tap down to put my
pass word it says that I'm still in the user name line but really I'm in
the
pass word line... Now if any one understands this and has any ideas please
let me know...
THANKS ROB
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