Hi well the acer and asus are they laptops or net books, I am stuck with what ever best buy has since I have to do a in store exchange only they won't refund my money. also how much does the acer and asus cost I can't spend a lot more money than i have already spent on this net book. Thanks Carlos From: inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: jaws 11 and net books Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:21:28 -0700 both acer and asus seem to make a fairly solid and well built unit without a lot of the crud software that some like the HP has. some models have a full keyboard, most have a built in web cam, which is a good or a bad thing depending on who you ask, and most have 4 USB ports. I have one, my lady is considering buying one after seeing me use mine, and one of my sighted friends bought the same edition of acer while another friend (also sighted) got the identical asus unit. I had office 2007 student trial on mine, but replaced it with my office 2003 professional for the use of access database. I consider them a good unit and I build desktops, so my opinion is based on one who can build high end units. HTH, inthane Moderator, Blind Access Help Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises Specialists in customized computers and peripherals - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn! www.alacorncomputer.com proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: carlos g To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:33 PM Subject: RE: jaws 11 and net books Hi thanks, well unfortunately I can not aford a full note book at this time. So I am trying to get the best I can. I wonder what is this about the toshiba net books vibrating. Also what do you know about the acers. Thanks Carlos From: inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: jaws 11 and net books Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:20:08 -0700 I would say get an acer, and unless you really want the limits of a netbook, I.E. no disk drive and limited cpu power, I'd get a full notebook also get 2 gigabits of ram minimum, and 4 would be better, and if it has windows 7 starter on it be sure you get an upgrade option. that's my best advice, and up till recently Toshiba's were ok, good as most, but some of the newest seem to have some new features which cause them to vibrate, you will want to ask them about this, what it's doing when its shaking and how specifically to turn it off. you may as well, need some sighted assistance with changing the F buttons from the media mode to there normal mode which is either done in control panel keyboards on some computers, and on others in the bios (which is why I said you might need some help) since many have said that there unit came with the additional functions of the f keys (normally used by hitting the fm key and the f key together) has been reversed so that the functions such as volume control and screen settings are under normal f key control, and things like close program keystroke (alt and f4 in the past) are now alt, FM key F4. hth, inthane Moderator, Blind Access Help Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises Specialists in customized computers and peripherals - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn! www.alacorncomputer.com proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: carlos g To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:39 PM Subject: jaws 11 and net books Hi list, My name is Carlos I am new to the list. I use to post once in a while years ago. Well I just bought a net book. my sighted friend hlped me buy it. Its an hp net book from best buy. Since I never had a net book i did not know what to look for. The first thing was that when the computer was turnd on it did not go in to windows right away instead showing some hp media thing. I prbably could not hae figuered ou what was going on if not for my sighted friend setting it up.o then i found the insert but worked as a print screen first and as an insert only in conjction of pressing the function ke. Thats not good with jaws. Now i just have fond out it doesn have a home page up page down or end key. I took it to best buy and they are goig to let me exchange it for another on i have had it for mor thann a month so they are making an exception to there rulesbecause the naure of the situation. if any one has had prolems with net books like this or has any suggestions on specific brands like please let me know.Its a nice netbook but i don't think i could get uso not having a home key or page upor page dow or end. thanks for any help. The sales person in best buy suggested toshiba net books but i don't know. Thaks Carlos